Comments on: Ellen DeGeneres: I Never Had To Fill Out An Application Or Have My Home Inspected http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/ Celebrity gossip from our lips to yours Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:35:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Matt http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12798 Matt Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:41:10 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12798 Bureaucrats don't even know how to give away a dog. Bureaucrats don’t even know how to give away a dog.

]]> By: wetcnt http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12478 wetcnt Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:47:15 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12478 How many dogs has Ellen had and then given away within 6 weeks? I know of at least 3 that she's talked about on her show. Anyone remember the "name my puppy" contest? Ellen has a serious mental problem if she is constantly adopting dogs and then giving them away in a few weeks. How many dogs has Ellen had and then given away within 6 weeks? I know of at least 3 that she’s talked about on her show. Anyone remember the “name my puppy” contest? Ellen has a serious mental problem if she is constantly adopting dogs and then giving them away in a few weeks.

]]> By: k http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12443 k Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:24:35 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12443 She's so broke, she obviously had to steal her Chanel glasses. And like I said elsewhere, if she had the money to pay $2000 to a vet, then she has about $1998.50 more in the bank than I do. If you go to the front page of the site and read my <a href="http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-shocked-to-hear-that-iggy-has-new-safe-home/" rel="nofollow">latest article</a> on it, you can see the links to the TMZ videos which show Marina in the backyard with the dog, holding it for two hours, not allowing it to eat, drink, or go potty. Oh, and she asked the family to fill out an app, but apparently only as a ruse to allow her into their home to take Iggy. She’s so broke, she obviously had to steal her Chanel glasses. And like I said elsewhere, if she had the money to pay $2000 to a vet, then she has about $1998.50 more in the bank than I do.

If you go to the front page of the site and read my latest article on it, you can see the links to the TMZ videos which show Marina in the backyard with the dog, holding it for two hours, not allowing it to eat, drink, or go potty. Oh, and she asked the family to fill out an app, but apparently only as a ruse to allow her into their home to take Iggy.

]]> By: B http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12439 B Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:12:03 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12439 Okay, now I get it after watching the video. How many times did she mentioned her cash-strapped situation? At least six times. She implies that her terms for relocating the dog to Ellen's hairdresser's family were for them to adopt the dog themselves, and presumably pay some additional adoption fees: "if you have a friend who's interested [in a dog you've adopted but can't keep] they can go through our [adoption] process." So I'm wondering, would she have okayed the relocation of Iggy to Ellen's hairdresser's family if they had paid the adoption fees to 're-adopt' Iggy? See, Ellen, you did it wrong. You should have paid off the shelter at the same time you gave the dog away. They really need the money. Hmmm...if they're so successful as a pet adoption agency("ask any of our hundreds of adoptees") then why are they so broke? What's missing in this situation is some basic common sense. Why did Ellen need to publicly humiliate the adoption agency? Like lots of people, I felt really bad for Ellen and especially for the hairdresser's family. But public histrionics were not really the best way to deal with the issue. But then, why didn't MandM try to work with the family and Ellen to give Iggy a trial with the new family instead of using (what appears to me to be) these iron-fisted tactics? Baktis comes across in the video as a patronizing, overbearing authoritarian who thinks she is the only one who knows what's best. Hey, there are thousands and thousands of people who are just as good, or better, with their pets than Baktis. And some of them don't forget to provide the proper care to their pets even when they're under extreme stress. Okay, now I get it after watching the video. How many times did she mentioned her cash-strapped situation? At least six times. She implies that her terms for relocating the dog to Ellen’s hairdresser’s family were for them to adopt the dog themselves, and presumably pay some additional adoption fees: “if you have a friend who’s interested [in a dog you've adopted but can't keep] they can go through our [adoption] process.” So I’m wondering, would she have okayed the relocation of Iggy to Ellen’s hairdresser’s family if they had paid the adoption fees to ‘re-adopt’ Iggy?

See, Ellen, you did it wrong. You should have paid off the shelter at the same time you gave the dog away. They really need the money. Hmmm…if they’re so successful as a pet adoption agency(”ask any of our hundreds of adoptees”) then why are they so broke?

What’s missing in this situation is some basic common sense. Why did Ellen need to publicly humiliate the adoption agency? Like lots of people, I felt really bad for Ellen and especially for the hairdresser’s family. But public histrionics were not really the best way to deal with the issue.

But then, why didn’t MandM try to work with the family and Ellen to give Iggy a trial with the new family instead of using (what appears to me to be) these iron-fisted tactics? Baktis comes across in the video as a patronizing, overbearing authoritarian who thinks she is the only one who knows what’s best. Hey, there are thousands and thousands of people who are just as good, or better, with their pets than Baktis. And some of them don’t forget to provide the proper care to their pets even when they’re under extreme stress.

]]> By: k http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12437 k Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:58:30 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12437 #18: Apparently you have not read my most recent article on the subject. The family DID fill out an app, at the agency's request, but that was just a ruse for the agency to come to the house and forcibly remove the dog. Also, Marina was first to say she would go to the press and expose this. All Ellen did was have the event taped to cover her behind and have a record of what happened. #18: Apparently you have not read my most recent article on the subject. The family DID fill out an app, at the agency’s request, but that was just a ruse for the agency to come to the house and forcibly remove the dog.

Also, Marina was first to say she would go to the press and expose this. All Ellen did was have the event taped to cover her behind and have a record of what happened.

]]> By: Andy http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12430 Andy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:27:35 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12430 Rescue agencies look after dogs that have already been abandoned, and do so on an entirely volunteer basis. The dog had already been abandoned, and after filling out an application, Ellen had abandoned the dog a second time. She did so after a very short time for a very weak reason, before any training could kick in. Rescue organizations make sure the animals will go to a loving home. If Ellen is able to give up an animal so quickly for such a sorry reason, she should give serious consideration before using her national exposure and access to media as a soapbox to espouse her virtues as someone fit to decide on the puppy's wellbeing. She was unable (unwilling) to care for it herself, and has put a volunteer organization through hell in order to get her way. Questions need to be considered: Why has the family who received the dog not bothered to apply for it on their own? Why didn't Ellen personally try to smooth this over with the agency rather than go directly on her show and cry alligator tears? It's petulant behaviour. She should stop insisting the dog be returned to the family, apologize to the agency and use this exposure to do some good for animal rescue. Using the children of the family as emotional collateral in this scenario is cheap manipulation, and for all her claims to love animals, Ellen should realize that the end result of this will be one less animal rescue agency able to save pets once abandoned by people (like herself), and more animals needlessly destroyed. Rescue agencies look after dogs that have already been abandoned, and do so on an entirely volunteer basis. The dog had already been abandoned, and after filling out an application, Ellen had abandoned the dog a second time. She did so after a very short time for a very weak reason, before any training could kick in.

Rescue organizations make sure the animals will go to a loving home. If Ellen is able to give up an animal so quickly for such a sorry reason, she should give serious consideration before using her national exposure and access to media as a soapbox to espouse her virtues as someone fit to decide on the puppy’s wellbeing. She was unable (unwilling) to care for it herself, and has put a volunteer organization through hell in order to get her way.

Questions need to be considered: Why has the family who received the dog not bothered to apply for it on their own? Why didn’t Ellen personally try to smooth this over with the agency rather than go directly on her show and cry alligator tears?

It’s petulant behaviour. She should stop insisting the dog be returned to the family, apologize to the agency and use this exposure to do some good for animal rescue. Using the children of the family as emotional collateral in this scenario is cheap manipulation, and for all her claims to love animals, Ellen should realize that the end result of this will be one less animal rescue agency able to save pets once abandoned by people (like herself), and more animals needlessly destroyed.

]]> By: k http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12417 k Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:25:37 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12417 #16: Yes, I would care. Since you don't know me or anything about me, please don't presume to tell me how I feel or what I would do, or assume you know what I have done. Mark my words, this story is not done yet. There is more that will come out. #16: Yes, I would care. Since you don’t know me or anything about me, please don’t presume to tell me how I feel or what I would do, or assume you know what I have done.

Mark my words, this story is not done yet. There is more that will come out.

]]> By: GW http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12414 GW Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:11:51 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12414 Rescue agencies are all different. If you don't like the rules and regulations of one, then go somewhere else. This group has the right to be selective on where "their" pets go. They are the ones that put their lives, time and energy on the line each and every day. Really...if it weren't for Ellen crying and being a Hollywood star and pitching a little fit, would you care? There are thousands of dogs/puppies/cats/kittens that are killed each year because there are too many pets, not enough homes...maybe you should work harder at getting spay/neuter programs in place vs spending so much time bashing an agency that is trying to make a real difference. GW Rescue agencies are all different. If you don’t like the rules and regulations of one, then go somewhere else. This group has the right to be selective on where “their” pets go. They are the ones that put their lives, time and energy on the line each and every day. Really…if it weren’t for Ellen crying and being a Hollywood star and pitching a little fit, would you care? There are thousands of dogs/puppies/cats/kittens that are killed each year because there are too many pets, not enough homes…maybe you should work harder at getting spay/neuter programs in place vs spending so much time bashing an agency that is trying to make a real difference.
GW

]]> By: Dog Lover http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12381 Dog Lover Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:20:48 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12381 I would like to know why Mutts and Moms did not go by their own policy and do a home check on Ellen. Also on the application it asks about other pets. Why would they adopt out this pup to a home with cats? A reputable rescue would already know if the dog got along with cats and if not, would never have adopted the dog out to a home with cats. Their application, adoption procedures, contract and there responsibility to the dog all seem to have gone out the window when they could say they adopted a dog to Ellen. It looks like Mutts and Moms will now fell what it is like on the other side of what goes around comes around. The sad part of this besides what she did to the little girl and her family is that Mutts and Moms have heart all reputable rescue. Hopefully future adopters will look close at the contracts and weather or not the rescue is a real non profit (with there own 501c3) before they adopt. Just because they say there a non profit, dose not mean they are. If you are looking to adopt a pet make sure you are looking at a reputable rescue. They are out there. I would like to know why Mutts and Moms did not go by their own policy and do a home check on Ellen. Also on the application it asks about other pets. Why would they adopt out this pup to a home with cats? A reputable rescue would already know if the dog got along with cats and if not, would never have adopted the dog out to a home with cats. Their application, adoption procedures, contract and there responsibility to the dog all seem to have gone out the window when they could say they adopted a dog to Ellen.

It looks like Mutts and Moms will now fell what it is like on the other side of what goes around comes around. The sad part of this besides what she did to the little girl and her family is that Mutts and Moms have heart all reputable rescue. Hopefully future adopters will look close at the contracts and weather or not the rescue is a real non profit (with there own 501c3) before they adopt. Just because they say there a non profit, dose not mean they are.
If you are looking to adopt a pet make sure you are looking at a reputable rescue. They are out there.

]]> By: Dog Lover http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12361 Dog Lover Thu, 18 Oct 2007 04:01:54 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2007/10/17/ellen-degeneres-i-never-had-to-fill-out-an-application-or-have-my-home-inspected/#comment-12361 It is time to take a good look at all the pet rescues. I have been a volunteer for a few. There are some very reputable rescues and more that are not. They pull in the volunteers and fosters that really care for the dogs and cats. Then you find out that they are really a for profit rescue. They use some one else’s 501c3 until they get caught, then use some one else’s. They usually use one from a reputable rescue. Some of them never give a copy of the contract to the NEW OWNER. That way they have no proof of what is in the contract. In many states a dog or cat is considered private property. And their contract will not hold up in court. But they still use it as a bluff that most people fall for. When it comes to the micro chips that are put in the dogs by the shelter or rescue. Some of the rescues do not send in the registration with the new owners as the owner, but as the secondary contact. And some do not send it in at all and it remains registered to the shelter, rescue or vet that purchased the micro chips. Then if a dog ends up in a shelter the rescue is contacted not the owner. Some rescues then never contact the owner, but adopt out the dog again, or have a different rescue do it for them out of the area. The application process is an area that is good for the most part. It is to make sure that a dog or cat is going to a good home and good match for the dog and that it will not end up back in a shelter. But some of the rescues are breed rescues that are more interested in if you deserve there breed. Many of the rescues will only take cash. That never seems to get put on there books. Some do home checks and some do not. I think that a home check is a must for a reputable rescue. If the rescue that you get your pet from dose not do a home check, then it is no better then a pet store, and most likely just in it for the money. When it comes to vet bills, some rescues will milk donations for many times the amount needed and for long after a dog or cat has been adopted. I have spent thousands of hours and dollars fostering and volunteering. I have seen it all and more. You tell your self that they are saving these dogs and cats, but you are really hurting the reputable rescues. Some times you have to go through a few rescues before you find one that is reputable and doing it only to save the dogs and cats. There are many good rescues out there, but there are just as many or more that are not. I think it is time that they were all looked at very closely. It is time to take a good look at all the pet rescues. I have been a volunteer for a few. There are some very reputable rescues and more that are not. They pull in the volunteers and fosters that really care for the dogs and cats. Then you find out that they are really a for profit rescue. They use some one else’s 501c3 until they get caught, then use some one else’s. They usually use one from a reputable rescue. Some of them never give a copy of the contract to the NEW OWNER. That way they have no proof of what is in the contract. In many states a dog or cat is considered private property. And their contract will not hold up in court. But they still use it as a bluff that most people fall for. When it comes to the micro chips that are put in the dogs by the shelter or rescue. Some of the rescues do not send in the registration with the new owners as the owner, but as the secondary contact. And some do not send it in at all and it remains registered to the shelter, rescue or vet that purchased the micro chips. Then if a dog ends up in a shelter the rescue is contacted not the owner. Some rescues then never contact the owner, but adopt out the dog again, or have a different rescue do it for them out of the area. The application process is an area that is good for the most part. It is to make sure that a dog or cat is going to a good home and good match for the dog and that it will not end up back in a shelter. But some of the rescues are breed rescues that are more interested in if you deserve there breed. Many of the rescues will only take cash. That never seems to get put on there books. Some do home checks and some do not. I think that a home check is a must for a reputable rescue. If the rescue that you get your pet from dose not do a home check, then it is no better then a pet store, and most likely just in it for the money. When it comes to vet bills, some rescues will milk donations for many times the amount needed and for long after a dog or cat has been adopted. I have spent thousands of hours and dollars fostering and volunteering. I have seen it all and more. You tell your self that they are saving these dogs and cats, but you are really hurting the reputable rescues. Some times you have to go through a few rescues before you find one that is reputable and doing it only to save the dogs and cats. There are many good rescues out there, but there are just as many or more that are not. I think it is time that they were all looked at very closely.

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