Remember, Jon voight was pretty much an abandoning father. he admitted it himself. Jon Voight can go on TV and cry and whine all he wants. But the fact is, he owed his ex wife over 180,000 in spousal support - which adds up to 18,000 a year for a decade. That’s a lot of money to add to the quality of life for Marcheline and her 2 children. Marcheline herself was not a high income earner. I believe you americans call people like Jon Voight a dead beat dad.

Recently, James have gone on record to say their father was abusive. that’s James’ opinion and I have to assume that he has good reasons for saying his dad was abusive.

I truly believe that people don’t reject their parents without good cause. The truth is, even children who have cause to believe they were rejected for example, children who have been given away for adoption, seek out their biological parents when they have grown up and try to establish a relationship. It’s truly human nature to desire a relationship with ones biological parents. Young children often think its their fault when they are abused by a parent - because that’s just the way a child is hardwired.

One of the reasons why teenagers and young adults get all fcuked up is because they unable to process the damage that their parents have inflicted on them. Check out the childhood background of any dysfunctional adult and I’ll bet you, you’ll find the roots in unresolved family dysfunction during childhood.

Personally, I think Angelina went through a period when she really wanted to keep her dad in her life, praising him, working with him, wanting him to be the dad that she wanted him to be, not the dad that he actually was, a dead beat dad (which is a fact - made in claims by Marcheline which can no doubt be proven by the amounts of money not transferred into her bank account each month and by admission by Jon Voight himself when he said he wasn’t very present during Angelina’s childhood).

To see her father for the human being he really is - a dead beat dad, a man who was abusive to his wife and neglectful of his family - is a healthy thing. And as Jon voight was also abusive in his relationship with his family, then I say cutting him out of their lives is another healthy action by Angelina and James. No healthy mature adult should keep an abusive relationship, whether it is with a parent or a husband or an employer or a neighbour. You just find a way to walk away.

Both James and Angelina were very close to their mother, so clearly, it wasn’t as if James and Angelina were people who wanted to reject their parents just because the parents grew old or sick. In fact, given the cost of medical treatment, and where marcheline was staying in the last years of her life, there’s no question that Angelina financially support her mother through the last 7 years of her life. For Jon voight to now appear on national TV and cry about how Angelina (but strangely, he seldom mentions James who it seems has also cut him off) has cut him out of his life and how he hasn’t seen his grandchildren - shakira or something like that - just makes me laugh. Imagine, an actor - a man trained to remember his lines, and he can’t remember a simple name like Zahara.

As far as Jon Voight and Angelina, again I believe that is a private story. Who knows what is the real story there. People like to say it is one thing but it could have been years to build. Again most of our news about this family often come from unnamed sources

I do agree that really attractive women, attractive on the inside, don’t need to throw themselves at men. Problem is, I don’t see Angelina as that sort of woman. And let’s face it…there are about a zillion ways a woman can “throw herself” at a man, without being overt about the whole thing. It can be done subtly, subtly, until the man doesn’t quite know how it happened. You can do it without the man even realizing it, making him think he was in charge the whole time. Same thing with a man “throwing himself” at a woman (lest people think I’m sexist as well as ignorant).

As for the rest of it…well, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I see what I see, you see what you see, and that’s pretty much that. I’m not interested in one-upmanship. My opinion is out there, as is yours, and I’m calling it a day, coz it’s really late here and I need to go to sleep. I have kids of my own to take care of in the morning.

I just meant that nobody actually saw Angelina throw herself at Brad, so I don’t think it’s a fair assumption. From what I’ve seen of life, men usually fall for women who are NOT throwing themselves at them.

The truth is that Brad’s life with Jennifer did not truly fulfill him and I imagine Angelina had an effect on him simply by being herself. As I said before, they share similar life goals and that is one of the most important things in a lifelong partnership. Brad and Jennifer had different priorities.

Also - I do not know what your idea of ‘morality’ is but in my book, a person who gives away millions of dollars to help the poor, spends (a LOT of) time in the darkest corners of the universe, and saves the lives of children has extremely high morals!

As for her current actions ‘erasing’ her past, I don’t think they need to.

Her past is fine as far as I’m concerned. She had a girlfriend, but I don’t consider that ‘immoral’. I guess some people do. She was married twice, this does not offend me either.

To me ‘immoral’ is violating another person’s rights, being unkind, harming the planet, stuff like that. Not having consensual sex with other adults!

Wearing a vial of blood and velcro-ing the kitchen did not harm anyone either. I classify that as youthful behavior, not IMMORAL.

As I see it she was just sort of punk and wild - searching for something more because her glitzy Hollywood life was not enough. She knew something was missing but did not know what it was until she went to Cambodia, became a mother, and found her calling.

Don’t forget she was still in her twenties at the time, and was a single mother for years before Brad came along!

On the positive side AJ brings needy causes to the forefront because of her fame. It’s frustrating that it takes a glamorous movie star to do this but hey if it works then it’s hard to dis. buuuut……

in my humble opinion she could do much more by aiding the families of these adopted children. I firmly believe that if circumstances prevented the birth families from taking care of the children Angelina (or Madonna for that matter) adopted and she found out about it - as a true humanitarian the onus would be on her to put her own wants and needs aside and think about what is best for the child. And no, that doesn’t mean dropping her off in Ethiopia. What it does mean is acknowledging a flawed process and the less than perfect world we live in.

She has never been shy about inviting the press into her life and sharing her benevolence with the world. So why the sudden press black out? If you are going to adopt children - you eventually have to answer the question “who am I?” It’s part of the process. No amount of money, love or fame can insulate them from that.

But Angelina did take great delight in portraying herself as a bit of an immoral woman, taking and disposing of lovers at the drop of a hat, and showing no qualms at throwing herself at a married man. Granted, Brad should have known better, but the bottom line is that both of them acted irresponsibly.

No, there’s nothing wrong with being sexual, but there ARE limits within the boundaries of propriety and decency, and more than once she’s blurred those lines. And no, her past is not erased by her actions of today…in fact, I’m not so sure that the basic intent behind her actions is so different now than then. Only time will tell.

Again, just my opinion.

I think it would be a nice gesture if Angelina would send regular updates to the birth mother, but that’s just my opinion.

And that’s really all this piece is…my opinion. No, I don’t like Angelina or Brad, but that doesn’t mean I can’t admit that she didn’t do anything wrong in this adoption, or possibly in the others. Do I think she should do/have done some things in her life differently? Yeah…but again, my OPINION. That’s all it is. Not saying everyone should agree with me, but I do expect people to realize that some of us can differentiate between not liking someone, not agreeing with their actions, and realizing when they’re being accused of something they didn’t do.