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01/31/2008 (3:18 pm)

Church of Scientology - Power, Lies, Corruption, Part III - Hyprocrisy and Double Standards

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L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology is quoted as saying:

“Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be start his own religion.”

Not to compare religious ideologies or beliefs, but that seems an unlikely foundation for any of the other major religions in the world. It is also important to note that no religion is without its failures, faults, murders, missteps and sordid history. But my conclusion is that Scientology isn’t a religion, and the mere fact that its founder based his ideology on making money goes to prove the point: money is the root of all evil. And tacking the term religion onto a derived set of self-help techniques cobbled together by a man who was previously known for writing mediocre science fiction, is dubious to say the least.

Hubbard, through his own greed and self-consuming need for power, took his mediocre science fiction writing skills and pieced together contemporary (but questionable) psychology beliefs, his own form of sci-fi terminology, mysticism, infused some unethical psyop methods of intimidation and created a futuristic-sounding philosophy, which at its core has more in common with Nazi fascism than any acceptable present-day religious beliefs. (Google Sea Org, RPF for further data)

Along the way, Hubbard created a multi-national, multi-billion dollar organization whose reputation for intimidation and unscrupulous practices sound more like a member of the Axis of Evil, than a religious organization which counts popular and famous actors like Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and John Travolta as its most prestigious members.

It’s not hard to imagine what might draw celebs (or regular folks) to an organization like the Church of Scientology. Its most secretly guarded and sacred documents promise God-like gifts to its followers, so long as they commit to taking rigorous, difficult and extremely expensive courses to attain this knowledge. Who wouldn’t want God-like abilities?

I would love the power to heal the body using only my mind. It would be wonderful to free myself of pain, stress and sickness by simply using “tried and true practices.” Imagine the possibility of moving objects with your mind? Rearranging the furniture would be a snap. Unfortunately, none of these things have been proven possible using L.Ron’s “tech” as he calls it, and L. Ron himself obviously couldn’t apply these skills to himself, as he died of the complications of a stroke. Hardly a fitting end to a man who claimed his philosophy and techniques would allow its users to transcend time and space, and heal thine body.

What may be the ultimate in hypocrisy (and irony), is in the late stages of his death, L. Ron appeared to be exhibiting symptoms of dementia or some other form of mental illness, as his toxicology report showed he had the anti-anxiety sedative Vistaril in his system. There are also letters which quote L. Ron a having consumed “rum and pink and grey pills” like any other drug-addicted pill popper. Not to mention, L. Ron was still receiving disability checks from the VA for lingering health issues which began during his stint in the Navy. So much for being cured of all sickness. Or was it just fraud?

For those not aware, Scientology expressly prohibits the use of any kind of psychotropic drug to treat inherent mental illness. That’s what the courses are for, and what the “tech” is supposed to do. This is why Tom Cruise publicly attacked fellow celeb, Brooke Shields, when she talked about her post-partum depression after having her first daughter and the drugs she took which helped ease the symptoms of her depression, which at times caused her to feel suicidal.

After a huge public outcry and much negative press, Tom apologized to Brooke for his attack, but remains firm that Scientology techniques of self-help would have cured Brooke without the use of drugs. I doubt Brooke, or any mother who’s suffered from the illness would agree.

So apparently, what’s good for L. Ron, isn’t good for his followers. This double standard of “do as I say, not as I do” is at the very core of some people’s issues with the Church. Even now, as we are watching the drama unfold with the internet-based group “Anonymous” and their cyber-attack on the COS, a double-standard within the COS has appeared once more.

The controlling upper echelon (re: David Miscaviage) of the COS are perfectly content to use whatever tools are at their disposal to quiet the “SP’s,” or suppressive persons (anyone who criticizes the COS) including, but not limited to: lying, threats, lawsuits, extortion, brain-washing, obstruction,breaking and entering, murder, extortion, brain-washing - and of course “disconnect” which is their basic tenet of distancing family members and loved ones from members whom the church deem as hostile to their ideology.

While no one would state it’s fair to blame an entire group for the heinous actions of a few, the long, disturbing history of human rights abuses, misuse of member dollars, and false claims from the Church of Scientology are in fact a woven belief of righteous deeds carried out by its members on authority of its sacred leader himself. As L.Ron Hubbard expressed, anyone who attacks the Church is “Fair Game,” and should be handled in any means necessary. One need only look above at the links to see what the Church deems as necessary. So with all due respect, wouldn’t the inverse apply to those dealing with Church?

Fortunately, Anonymous seems to understand that to lower oneself to the level of one’s enemy makes them no better than their enemy. The real question now is, without a single enemy to respond to, with in fact, their enemies faceless and everywhere at once, how will COS respond?

So far, with a quiet whimper.

Posted by D
Filed under: Celebrity Culture, Crimes and Punishment, Hollyweird, Intrigue, Scientology

47 Comments »

  1. It’s a good thing nobody gives a s*** about what you have to say. Despite your propaganda, Scientology is expanding at a record pace. Buildings are being bought around the world and renovated and the growth is undeniable.
    Gossip is indeed the food of idiots.

    Comment by Steve — January 31, 2008 @ 5:50 pm

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  3. The Corrupt Church of Scientology will brainwash and delude people no longer. Everyone now knows what your kind really are.

    PS: To good Scientologists:
    Join FreeZone, they don’t destroy you if you leave, they don’t charge you a ton of money to cross the bridge.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 31, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

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  5. Another laudable article.

    Bravo. Bravo.

    P.S. Buying buildings and laving them empty seems like a rather silly misallocation of funds if you ask me.

    Comment by Psychic Cupcale — January 31, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

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  7. Good post. I agree with you that “Church” of Scientology is a money making business as planned by L Ron Hubbard. I know people would;nt buy into his stories his intention was to destroy all of it’s critics by ANY means possible.

    Good thing people are waking up this fact.

    Comment by Mel — January 31, 2008 @ 6:04 pm

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  9. Thank you for that D, a well cited introduction to the practices of Scientology and an excellent summary of why we are attacking them. If anyone thinks we are doing this because of their beliefs, their faith then they should take a look at the Free Zone, a group of Scientologists who splintered and formed their own organisation due to disgust at the CoS practices.

    With the global protests on February the 10th looming (everyone is invited, check the website linked for information) the Church of Scientology is acting like a cornered animal. It has been in decline for years and this marks the final turning point.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 31, 2008 @ 6:05 pm

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  11. It might take a long amount of time, but the Church of Scientology will fall eventually. The information is out there and will never go away. As time passes, more people will educate themselves, and less and less people will be willing to associate with such a cult.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 31, 2008 @ 6:06 pm

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  13. Well, apparently the Economist cares.

    http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10609174

    Comment by Alf — January 31, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

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  15. Ehhh, Steve here again, the guy who posted first on this article. Ehh, I just want to say that I did some research on the net since then, and ehh, I unconditionally retract everything I said earlier, it appear there’s only 70,000 of us worldwide and we are in decline. Dammit, they lied to me!

    Comment by Steve — January 31, 2008 @ 6:13 pm

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  17. Ah. Looks like the scientologist shills (OSA) are now monitoring your column. Terryeo is that you????? People should google Terryeo.

    Comment by That Guy — January 31, 2008 @ 6:13 pm

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  19. Is Terryeo ONE Scientologist shill, or a dozen?

    Also, Steve, if you’re not deeply in the CoS yet, you might want to do some research and check your pocketbooks–I’ve heard Scientologists will drive you into debt with their pressure to sell you lessons and treatments.

    As someone else mentioned, Free Zoners practice the same beliefs, but for free and without illegal activities.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 31, 2008 @ 6:29 pm

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  21. Terryeo - as far as I can it one person. There are other scientologist that also monitor the net but they seem to go by different names. Terryeo has been around for quite a while (a few years).

    Comment by That Guy — January 31, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

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  23. Their abuses of human rights are well documented.

    When they attack you they claim the right to freedom of speech, but when they are called out on their bullshit they scream persecution.

    We are Anonymous. We are your doctors, your lawyers, your waiters, your teachers, and your police. We are everywhere. We do not forgive, and we do not forget.

    Expect us February 10th at your local Scientologist brainwashing center.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 31, 2008 @ 6:39 pm

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  25. Rondroids and Clambots and Flamers, oh my!

    As for “Anonymous” they’re well intentioned, but they clearly need to get out more, as they sound rather like geeky, Orwellian drama queens . . .

    “We are Anonymous. We are your doctors, your lawyers, your waiters, your teachers, and your police. We are everywhere. We do not forgive, and we do not forget.”

    Really, a script like that can only be read aloud by James Earl Jones with an echo filter.

    Don’t become what you are fighting.

    Comment by Artoo45 — January 31, 2008 @ 7:33 pm

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  27. The most common way people get sucked in is through what Scientology calls, “Finding their ruin”. They question an individual about the disappointments they have had in life, bringing what could have been a long forgotten problem to the surface. They then present themselves as the only solution. The personality test they give free to the public is a perfect opening for this. The movie stars are as vulnerable to this technique as anyone.

    Comment by Sal the Bartender — January 31, 2008 @ 8:07 pm

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  29. WIN

    Comment by masha — January 31, 2008 @ 8:22 pm

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  31. This was an excellent article. I appologise for the Scientologist trolls who will no doubt shit up your comments section. You’re doing a good thing by putting this out there. This anon salutes you.

    Comment by Captain America — January 31, 2008 @ 9:44 pm

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  33. Once again you prove the media motto of: “One person lying while another swears to it”. That you know nothing of the subject you are writing about is typical of the media in general - but then why should anyone expect you to not lie as often as possible? The People in your industry are incapable of passing on a truthful statement and you need to look no further on why it is a dying industry.

    Comment by GrnApl — January 31, 2008 @ 9:46 pm

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  35. An excellent article. I shall recommend it widely.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 31, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

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  37. Anyone who listens to talk radio can tell you that CoS is not the only ones who are advising against the use of psychotropic drugs. I personally was very skeptical of Scientology but after studying it for some time and then looking at the real world where people people buy into the idea that people would have gotten even worse had they never taken psychotropic drugs and the police should force these people to stay on their medication because they go crazy when they stop. Then I talked to homeless people and found out that many of had been put on psychotropic drugs before they became homeless.

    I understand the freezone organization is offering the same bridge as CoS and they do charge money. The psychiatrists charge money too. Of course instead of going to a psychiatrist and getting branded crazy or even worse getting electro convulsive therapy as well as psychotropics which will make you crazy for sure you can discretely get in the waiting line with someone who has been trained by the CoS or Freezone and get some real help without joining the CoS. I have noticed the same thing is true for hypnotists. The difference is that if you only went to a hypnotist you can still get help from auditing but if you get messed up with psychotropic drugs or ECT the auditor will say “Sorry, I cannot help you.”. Go ask the psychiatrist if they would subject themselves to an ECT or take psychotropics. I am really amazed that you are espousing the same old tired misinformation about Scientology is still making the rounds after all these years. Instead of simply duplicating what other people say who are also not authorities, why don’t you go down to a library and check out some books and read for yourself.

    Comment by CuriousSpy — January 31, 2008 @ 11:28 pm

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  39. It’s true that Scientology is growing, which confirms that the world will never have a shortage of brain dead sheep willing to pay someone else to think for them. (The Nazi party expanded at a record pace too, until the world woke up and put their lights out. Co$ is next.) Any “church” founded by a psychopathic freak show like L. Ron Hubbard is bound to attract deadbeats and losers in droves. Hey, let ‘em join! Why should I care if the idiots mortgage their house to pay for soup-can psychiatry. As far as the group ‘Anonymous’ goes — well, sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire! Rock on.

    Comment by Tony Clifton — February 1, 2008 @ 12:20 am

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  41. BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN BUSTED!!!
    BUSTED WIDE OPEN. EXPOSED. UNCOVERED. REVEALED.
    Whatever you want to call it.
    The world’s greatest scammer has been scammed!

    Now that all of its so-called secret documents have been posted its impossible for them to survive this attack no matter how many politicians they own. Bits and pieces have been leaked to the media before but they were all just too bizarre for anyone to believe. It is just too much for the average person to comprehend. So much so that it was impossible to believe. Just another Hollywood eccentric club one would think.
    The entire organization was built around lies and deceit and fraud.

    With the release of all the secret DOCs everything has been exposed and way too many people know about it. From the Fair Game policy to Lord Xenu and the DC-8s there are no more secrets conceal. Nothing left to build their pyramid on. I don’t think anyone would knowingly join a religion or anything else realizing before hand that after 10-20 years of hard work and dedication and thousands of dollars the grand finale is finding out about the aliens and volcanoes and stuff maybe being able to bend a spoon or something with your mind (which, by the way, you are not allowed to demonstrate to anybody).

    And the people that are left who haven’t made it to OT 3 yet already know what the punch line is will probably go ahead and leave. There is no reason for them to stay and spend more money to get information that is freely available. Why don’t you go to any of the hundreds of file sharing sites, download some secret documents and read for yourself.

    Comment by Road to Insanity — February 1, 2008 @ 12:32 am

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  43. I’m not a scientologist and I wish I could
    change this conversation to one about Christianity
    but I went to several Scientology web sites
    and think that what it has to offer is very much needed in our world.
    They do a lot of good
    things. I remember reading something in the Katrina news too
    about Scientology crews there and John Travolta going around in
    a boat to help. I have a lot of respect for John Travolta and
    personally am moved by Tom Cruz’s passion for what he believes
    in. I did notice that no matter how angry they become in their
    subject of passion, they don’t lower themselves to the level you
    have permitted yourselves to sink. But then that is likely normal
    ops for you in daily life. You guys are a bunch of bored
    computer nerds with too much time on your hands. I don’t care
    how far fetched a religion seems or how passionate the
    members. But what I read so far was positive and actually quiet
    admirable. I found a personality test on one of the sites. I’m
    tired tonight but I’m going to take it tomorrow. Interesting. Back
    off and get a life okay

    Comment by Terryeo-Lightfield-Arkaitz-Churilov-Luana-Chewyanbert — February 1, 2008 @ 12:56 am

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  45. Thank you, for posting the truth about this Cult. And remember, if they try to harass you, Anonymous will fight for you.

    FEB 10, Scientology Centers world wide, 1100 AM Local all time zones. Protest the travesty.

    Comment by Aeros — February 1, 2008 @ 1:26 am

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  47. The church of $cientology is not expanding they just want us to believe that they’re growing. In reality they’ve purchased a lot of real estate, but those building are empty. There’s only a handful of staff in each building at the most. Many of the buildings that they’ve bought need renovating before they can be used and it’ll take the Co$ decades to renovate their buildings. Take Clearwater FL for example they been working on renovating their flagship/superpower building for at least a decade now and it’s still unfinished.

    As for Terreo nice cut n paste how many time have you posted that response? You can’t keep up with it all. Sorry pal we’re not drinking the cool aid. We know what the Co$ is about and myself and everyone I know want nothing to do with it, and we’ll keep spreading the word. We also know that you’re a Scientologist. Again, you’re not going to fool anyone. Nobody wants to take the phony “Oxford Capacity Analysis”, we know it’s rigged, and it has absolutely nothing to do with Oxford University. Nice try though.

    Comment by Governor — February 1, 2008 @ 1:38 am

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  49. I’ve read Terryeo’s statement above at several different websites, copied verbatim. As you can see, he doesn’t even bother to copy and paste without fixings the margins. I’m sure at a Scientology strategy session, word from on high is that you shouldn’t try to defend any of the crazy sh*t about Xenu, thetans, or etc, but say, “we are just as absurd as any other long established religion.” You think this red herring somehow frees Scientology from any kind of criticism. However, it’s not as easy to persuade people who haven’t been thoroughly brainwashed.

    Oh, thank Cruise for helping the cause by exposing you clowns. Now the whole world knows. Have you ever wondered whether he might be working for the other side? I mean, he was definitely raving and over-acting in that video he made for you - and I’m sure laughing at you the whole time.

    Comment by Xenu — February 1, 2008 @ 1:56 am

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  51. Some of your links are broken. Corrected list:

    1) http://www.xenu.net/archive/hubbardcoroner/
    2) http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/01/opinion/01shields.html
    3) http://www.scientology-lies.com/press/time/thriving-cult-greed-power.html
    4) http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2006/11/02/publiceye/entry2144647.shtml
    5) http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/crim.htm
    6) http://www.sptimes.com/News/080401/TampaBay/Doctor_in_Lisa_McPher.shtml
    7) http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5heELOXbk_8qWowwJGtd3RrEXdqgQ
    8) http://www.xenu.net/archive/co_pls.html

    Anonymous provides.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 1, 2008 @ 3:43 am

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  53. Fighting for free speech… and for our enjoyment. Enjoyment of watching tools like those above awakened to a breath of fresh air. Enjoyment at watching the abysmal spew of batshit cease from the perpetuators of the cult. Call us what you want. Call us geeks. Call us no-lifes. But remember that, one day, you too may dawn the faceless suit fight.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 1, 2008 @ 5:39 am

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  55. Remember that Anonymous is that essence of the human soul that you all possess. That faceless monster that cries out for remorseless justice at the travesties in the world. Don’t think for a moment you don’t see yourself in us, every vengeful thought that you never completed is held actualized in our very existance.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 1, 2008 @ 5:42 am

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  57. “Scientology is expanding at a record pace”

    Funny. Let’s see: as early as 1969, the Church of Scientology was claiming 15 million members. (source: Valley News (December 1969): “Scientology Leader Denies Manson ‘Family’ Connection”)

    In 1992, Church of Scientology was claiming 8 million. (source: ABC News Nightline (February 1992): “A Conversation with David Miscavige”)

    In 2007, Church of Scientology was still claiming 8 million. (source: Evening Standard, UK (January 2007): “Labour takes cash from cult charity”, p. 2)

    So… “record pace”? Ahhh, never mind, Scientology is about “[creating] new and better realities” as Tom Cruise said so well. Who cares if these “realities” are… real. As L. Ron Hubbard said, “Never compromise with your own reality”, isn’t Steve?

    :-)

    (Btw, most links are broken in the article, can that be fixed?)

    Comment by R. Hill — February 1, 2008 @ 8:51 am

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  59. I have been a Scientologist for 30 years now and helped many people with communication and their own relationships. Sorry guys but no matter what you say you seem to be brainwashed by the media. Did you ever READ any of the 17 or so basic books, 12- 15 large volumes on the spirit and the mind, 110 plus research volumes, over 3,000 lectures or 15 large volumes on business administration? Anyone who really looks into Scientology and reads its data looks at what you write as uneducated and foolish media believers… By the way haven’t you realized this is all about big Pharma anyway?? Cruise disagreed. Lilly is under a 1.5 Billion dollar suite with 30,000 people filed against them!!!

    Comment by nate — February 1, 2008 @ 10:01 am

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  61. THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY BLACKMAILED THE I.R.S.

    This is an important read for anyone following this campaign against the CoS.

    http://crypticclarity.com/why-germany-wants-to-ban-the-cult-of-scientology/

    Why Germany Wants to Ban the Cult of Scientology.

    ………………..In addition, a New York Times article on March 9, 1997, outlined “an extraordinary campaign orchestrated by Scientology against the [IRS] and people who work there. Among the findings were these: Scientology’s lawyers hired private investigators to dig into the private lives of IRS officials and to conduct surveillance operations to uncover potential vulnerabilities.” A related New York Times article on December 1, 1997, added that earlier IRS refusals to grant tax exemption “had been upheld by every court.” (On December 30, 1997, a Wall Street Journal article outlined details of the $12.5 million tax settlement between the IRS and Scientology, including the Scientology agreement to drop thousands of lawsuits against the IRS.)

    On December 1, 1997, a New York Times article described Scientology records seized in an FBI raid on church offices that prove “that Scientology had come to Clearwater with a written plan to take control of the city. Government and community organizations were infiltrated by Scientology members. Plans were undertaken to discredit and silence critics. A fake hit-and-run accident was staged in 1976 to try to ruin the political career of the mayor. A Scientologist infiltrated the local newspaper and reported on the paper’s plans to her handlers.” A related Times article also on Dec. 1, 1997, reported on a criminal investigation into Scientology’s role in a member’s death in Clearwater, Florida. In November 1998, the responsible State Attorney charged Scientology’s Flag Service Organization with abuse or neglect of a disabled adult and practicing medicine without a license……………………..

    http://crypticclarity.com/why-germany-wants-to-ban-the-cult-of-scientology/

    http://www.fairgamed.org/

    xenu.net

    This is only one example of many of why it is important for anyone who is willing to speak out against the church of scientology should remain Anonymous unless they are willing to take the risk of being either physically, mentally, professionally reputationally or financially destroyed.

    Comment by e-meter for sale — February 1, 2008 @ 10:26 am

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  63. I will disregard the usual Scientology attempt at deflecting the conversation from Scientology to “Evil psychs”.

    Nate,

    According to you, people critical of Scientology have been “brainwashed by the media”. I have a hard time imagining that someone can be brainwashed by reading *freely* from such a *wide variety of sources* as media, authors, scholars, court documents, former members, and even Scientology literature.

    Now, according to you, you have escaped this “brainwash[ing] by the media” by reading from a *single* source, L. Ron Hubbard himself, the founder of Scientology, who said that “people who attack Scientology are criminals,” in effect preventing anybody adhering to *his* doctrine from considering all other sources of information that are deemed critical of *his* doctrine.

    Nobody is deterring me from reading Scientology material (aside the *Church of Scientology itself* which tries to remove his own scripture from public view), but I see Scientology doctrine deterring scientologists from giving credence to anything critical of Scientology (you know, “entheta”). So, which one is more likely to lead to “brainwashing”?

    Comment by R. Hill — February 1, 2008 @ 10:48 am

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  65. Having been a child in the Sea Org,signing a billion year contract,i don’t need the media to brainwash me into knowing that living and working directly with Hubbard was a true live Scifi nightmare.
    I think “brainwashing” was done by scare tactics ensuring my silence on the subject of Scientology for so long.Lets face it if some one is scared enough they will stay quiet,especially if its a child and their parent has disappeared.
    So as far as i’m concerned i hope the media expose Scientology for what it really is and that is not a religion.Helping people shouldn’t have a several thousand dollar bill attached to it.

    Comment by Rosemary Thyme — February 1, 2008 @ 11:37 am

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  67. Very good article and Nate you are spot-on.

    Reading from many sources, including ex-members and court documents is somehow “brain-washed by the media” and yet they refer to ONLY a collection of materials from CoS as the objective truth on the matter?

    Yes, they’ve certainly poured themself a big glass of kool-aid.

    Comment by solange — February 1, 2008 @ 11:42 am

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  69. So far the best argument I’ve heard from the cult is that they help people like in Katrina. But honestly, it seems like this “help” the cult gives is just for PR purposes to seem less skeevy. It’s a simple and common diversion method, “Hey look over here at the few little good things I’m doing so you can’t see the tons of misdeeds my cult buddies are up to!”
    Why not focus all that (scammed) money you are wasting on ridiculous lawsuits and empty buildings to help out more???

    I am also absolutely sick and tired of these scientologist always trying to divert blame and distract by bringing up the misdeeds of other religions and psychology. “But look at what everybody else is doing!” That, and trying to discredit the critics. So predictable!
    Brainwashed by the media!?! PARANOID! I’ve read a lot of the rambling gibberish you are referring to, and much of it is repetitive, repetitive, repetitive and paranoia driven. Pretty much everything else were things I’ve already learned elsewhere (but reworded with a scifi twist).

    By the way, TERRYEO, as I’ve mentioned before, I’ve seen you around and it’s the jerks with attitudes like yours towards critics that caught my attention (and not in a good way) before I even knew anything about the cos. You guys have a tendency to be really RUDE, arrogant, overly aggressive, paranoid, sociopathic, and just plain ugly in your attitudes towards anyone opposed to scientology. That is not what one would expect of a group of people looking to be accepted and given credibility.

    If you want to be treated like a grown up religion, you have to act like one. You guys running off crying “Waahh, I’m gonna tell my lawyer on you!” anytime somebody makes fun of you makes it so much harder for people to take you guys seriously.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 1, 2008 @ 11:50 am

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  71. SCIENTOLOGY IS BUILT TO MAKE MONEY. celebrities will be pampered. the wealthy will be bankrupt. everyone else is used up like toilet paper.

    Comment by Hal — February 1, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

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  73. Geez, Terryo-Lightwhatever and Co.,

    I love your “I am not a Scientologist . . .” screed, but come on, the whole “gee whillikers, I’m gonna take a test TOMORROW!” Andy Hardy crap is too much. And if that bloated conman Hubbard was so great, why didn’t didn’t he discover the axiom that fuels so much of the enmity towards his “church”: The more humorless and disapproving you are, the more I will mock you.

    Comment by Artoo45 — February 1, 2008 @ 1:07 pm

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  75. SCIENTOLOGY BLACKMAILED THE I.R.S.

    This is scary stuff. A must read.

    http://crypticclarity.com/why-germany-wants-to-ban-the-cult-of-scientology/

    Why Germany Wants to Ban the Cult of Scientology

    ………………….In addition, a New York Times article on March 9, 1997, outlined “an extraordinary campaign orchestrated by Scientology against the [IRS] and people who work there. Among the findings were these: Scientology’s lawyers hired private investigators to dig into the private lives of IRS officials and to conduct surveillance operations to uncover potential vulnerabilities.” A related New York Times article on December 1, 1997, added that earlier IRS refusals to grant tax exemption “had been upheld by every court.” (On December 30, 1997, a Wall Street Journal article outlined details of the $12.5 million tax settlement between the IRS and Scientology, including the Scientology agreement to drop thousands of lawsuits against the IRS.)

    On December 1, 1997, a New York Times article described Scientology records seized in an FBI raid on church offices that prove “that Scientology had come to Clearwater with a written plan to take control of the city. Government and community organizations were infiltrated by Scientology members. Plans were undertaken to discredit and silence critics. A fake hit-and-run accident was staged in 1976 to try to ruin the political career of the mayor. A Scientologist infiltrated the local newspaper and reported on the paper’s plans to her handlers.” A related Times article also on Dec. 1, 1997, reported on a criminal investigation into Scientology’s role in a member’s death in Clearwater, Florida. In November 1998, the responsible State Attorney charged Scientology’s Flag Service Organization with abuse or neglect of a disabled adult and practicing medicine without a license……………………….

    http://www.fairgamed.org/

    Comment by e-meter for sale — February 1, 2008 @ 1:58 pm

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  77. Sheesh people, thanks for the attention. Hi Raymond H, anonymous, Feldspar, Artoo, but where’s Gerald?
    Right or wrong, hot and cold; join the throng, or join the mold.
    Yours is yours and mine is mine, but we each do, we all opine.
    Guaranteed by writ and fight, opine we shall by word or might.
    “The only mistake you can make in this universe is an unbalanced use of intelligence and force” — said a past gentleman.

    Comment by Terryeo — February 1, 2008 @ 2:02 pm

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  79. It’s always interesting when people bring up the subject of Psychotropic drugs, especially in the context that CuriousSpy does. These things do help people. Usually its people who have a bad reaction to one type of medication and don’t go back to get another one who have problems, they don’t realize their mistake and then they blame those evil Psychiatrists. Therapy is a two way street, both parties have to participate to make the problem better, but there is usually a solution. There are also many safeguards within the field that prevent Psychiatrists from diagnosing just anyone, including psychotherapy by their peers during graduate school so they realize how much of an impact their decisions will have on the patient as well as society. They also have to go through a stint in medical school. I don’t think either of those things inspire Psychiatrists to be half as evil as they are perceived to be.

    There’s nothing like that in Scientology, no safeguards, no science. In fact their drills and practices usually end up permanently affecting your nervous system in a bad way (blinking when looking at someone is okay, really), leave one emotionally and psychologically messed up, and the practice of “Touch Assist” has made people think that they don’t need medical assistance for certain things. Certain things like CANCER. So it’s extremely sad when someone who supports these things talks about their views about a field such as Psychiatry that happened to by hijacked from a man who had severe mental problems himself; views that haven’t been updated with the most current information on the field in decades. Psychiatrists don’t just go around with electro-shockers and zap anyone or give drugs to kids like candy. Duh.

    Comment by Concerned — February 1, 2008 @ 2:22 pm

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  81. Well, what do you know, the ever predictable Terryeo has decided to use the same tactic of addressing individuals as well. How very “clever.” Why don’t you drop the “you’re stupid” and “I know you are, but what am I” arguments and try enlightening us with VALID FACTS to support your stance without diverting blame to the misdeeds of other institutions? Oh wait, that goes against your cult’s policy of attack rather than defend, doesn’t it? And you can’t go against policy, cuz that would not be true freedom, would it?
    And the “thanks for all of the attention” remarks I’ve been seeing seems very reverse psychology. I thought you guys opposed psychology of any kind.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 1, 2008 @ 2:47 pm

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  83. I have fixed the links. My apologies. I have been completely overwhelmed with data, facts, figures and ideas and so my brain is spent. Please be patient:)

    Comment by D — February 1, 2008 @ 3:14 pm

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  85. Sorry, Nate, but I’ll stick with Christianity and The Bible…don’t need a roomful of volumes, just one book. :)

    Comment by k — February 1, 2008 @ 5:00 pm

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  87. Takes out brain, washes out the engrams, pops it back in. Okay, is it recess yet?

    Comment by Terryeo — February 5, 2008 @ 2:30 pm

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  89. Terryeo, hows it feel knowing that some of us will never stop until we delete your cult from this planet no matter what we have to do?

    Comment by Centurian 10 — April 17, 2008 @ 6:26 pm

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  91. I’m a ryhmin Simon with a varginan and a yeast infuction.

    Comment by Terryeo — May 1, 2008 @ 8:40 pm

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  93. I want Tom Cruise babies in my mangina.

    Comment by Terryeo — May 5, 2008 @ 11:32 pm

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