Comments on: One Very Compelling Reason To Protest The Church of Scientology http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/ Celebrity gossip from our lips to yours Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:10:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: liz http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-31097 liz Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:35:31 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-31097 What frightens me, is that just a few years ago, before I knew what much of that terminology meant and had a better idea of the CoS' history, I probably would have watched the video of this young woman and thought she'd lost her mind. Like many, I would have just dismissed it as angry, delusional ramblings. I've no doubt that certain aspects of scientology was "designed" this way intentionally for this purpose. If you were unaware of what she is saying really meant, honestly, what would you think? This is where I feel that what anonymous is doing is most significant. They are making it easier for people to come out and talk about what has happened to them easier on so many levels other than just providing safety in numbers. What frightens me, is that just a few years ago, before I knew what much of that terminology meant and had a better idea of the CoS’ history, I probably would have watched the video of this young woman and thought she’d lost her mind. Like many, I would have just dismissed it as angry, delusional ramblings. I’ve no doubt that certain aspects of scientology was “designed” this way intentionally for this purpose. If you were unaware of what she is saying really meant, honestly, what would you think?
This is where I feel that what anonymous is doing is most significant. They are making it easier for people to come out and talk about what has happened to them easier on so many levels other than just providing safety in numbers.

]]> By: Kaden http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30866 Kaden Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:53:53 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30866 That something so horrible could happen to such a kind hearted person is just tragic. The fact that it could happen in general is horrible. I commend her for the courage it took to stand before 300 plus people and the very church responsible for her father's downward spiral, and relate her story to the world. I wish I could say I was as brave as her. We fight so her story isn't repeated in other families. That something so horrible could happen to such a kind hearted person is just tragic. The fact that it could happen in general is horrible. I commend her for the courage it took to stand before 300 plus people and the very church responsible for her father’s downward spiral, and relate her story to the world. I wish I could say I was as brave as her. We fight so her story isn’t repeated in other families.

]]> By: Mary http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30855 Mary Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:12:55 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30855 Jean Marie, thank you so much for standing up to the cult and telling them the truth. Jean Marie, thank you so much for standing up to the cult and telling them the truth.

]]> By: Fredric L. Rice http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30768 Fredric L. Rice Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:21:13 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30768 I hope that Operation Reconnect will address these issues as well as cover Scientology's core ideologies of breaking up families. I hope that Operation Reconnect will address these issues as well as cover Scientology’s core ideologies of breaking up families.

]]> By: tomkat-thetan http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30742 tomkat-thetan Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:26:25 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30742 Terryeo, Of course they let all lapsed $cientologists back into the fold. The minute they return, they get the old 1-2 punch. They are fleeced of all their money, and then sent sent into the RPF as cheap labor. Terryeo, Of course they let all lapsed $cientologists back into the fold. The minute they return, they get the old 1-2 punch. They are fleeced of all their money, and then sent sent into the RPF as cheap labor.

]]> By: Anon, Anon, My Boyfriend's Back! http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30741 Anon, Anon, My Boyfriend's Back! Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:21:01 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30741 @anonymous scientologist "As a Scientology parishioner, I have gotten to endure the “anonymous” attacks on my church." You should have put "attacks" in quotes, not Anonymous. There haven't been any attacks alluded to by your writing tone unless you consider assembling and protesting and disseminating information an attack. "So why the big lie about it’s not against the members of Scientology?" Uhm, you just said in your previous sentence, "attacks on my church". A lot of us may not agree with or find humor in what you believe but we really aren't aginst you believing in it. I personally don't see it as any stranger than Christian mythologies or belief in prayer or faith healing. In reality it's really not any different than any religion except for the way it operates. If we were against the beliefs, why would we promote and have the support of the Freezoners? "The only evil wrong-doers “anonymous” is facing up to are themselves in a mirror. You’re cowards." Sciplant attacks...next. "I still go to my church. I’m not a coward." Have you personally investigated any of our claims or do you just believe what you are spoon fed? You'll find that, if you do try and thoroughly investigate these things, you'll be sec checked, named a PTS, and possibly sent to the RPF. I'd say you're the coward for not bothering to find answers for yourself...which is rather ironic considering that it's one of the tenets of Scientology. "And please don’t come back with the generality “It’s the church!” Meaning me, but you want to make it out that there is a big bugaboo somewhere you are talking about." If making yourself the victim in this allows you to turn a blind eye to the allegations leveled at your Church and it's leaders, then so be it. But, Anonymous doesn't mean any members any harm. EVEN the staff that are screwing things up for you. There is an ultimatim echoed in every corner of the internets and in every mask at the protests: reform or collapse. We are only expediting the Churches arrival at one or the other, all the damage is self inflicted...we just shined a light on it. "Put up or shut up on your allegations." All in due time. Get the paper shredders fired up lads and lasses, you've got visitors. "And that doesn’t mean me, you vicious bleaters." Funny how you essentially martyred yourself and made us look like the bad guys while simultaneously issuing attack after attack. Bravo, you really are the very model of a modern Scientologist. I'd like to see more people initiate in level-headed debate on par with Billy Sheehan from the wise beard man videos. He adamantly denied all allegations and wouldn't talk about most of the things he was asked but at least he was pleasant. @anonymous scientologist

“As a Scientology parishioner, I have gotten to endure the “anonymous” attacks on my church.”

You should have put “attacks” in quotes, not Anonymous. There haven’t been any attacks alluded to by your writing tone unless you consider assembling and protesting and disseminating information an attack.

“So why the big lie about it’s not against the members of Scientology?”

Uhm, you just said in your previous sentence, “attacks on my church”. A lot of us may not agree with or find humor in what you believe but we really aren’t aginst you believing in it. I personally don’t see it as any stranger than Christian mythologies or belief in prayer or faith healing. In reality it’s really not any different than any religion except for the way it operates. If we were against the beliefs, why would we promote and have the support of the Freezoners?

“The only evil wrong-doers “anonymous” is facing up to are themselves in a mirror. You’re cowards.”

Sciplant attacks…next.

“I still go to my church. I’m not a coward.”

Have you personally investigated any of our claims or do you just believe what you are spoon fed? You’ll find that, if you do try and thoroughly investigate these things, you’ll be sec checked, named a PTS, and possibly sent to the RPF. I’d say you’re the coward for not bothering to find answers for yourself…which is rather ironic considering that it’s one of the tenets of Scientology.

“And please don’t come back with the generality “It’s the church!” Meaning me, but you want to make it out that there is a big bugaboo somewhere you are talking about.”

If making yourself the victim in this allows you to turn a blind eye to the allegations leveled at your Church and it’s leaders, then so be it. But, Anonymous doesn’t mean any members any harm. EVEN the staff that are screwing things up for you. There is an ultimatim echoed in every corner of the internets and in every mask at the protests: reform or collapse. We are only expediting the Churches arrival at one or the other, all the damage is self inflicted…we just shined a light on it.

“Put up or shut up on your allegations.”

All in due time. Get the paper shredders fired up lads and lasses, you’ve got visitors.

“And that doesn’t mean me, you vicious bleaters.”

Funny how you essentially martyred yourself and made us look like the bad guys while simultaneously issuing attack after attack. Bravo, you really are the very model of a modern Scientologist. I’d like to see more people initiate in level-headed debate on par with Billy Sheehan from the wise beard man videos. He adamantly denied all allegations and wouldn’t talk about most of the things he was asked but at least he was pleasant.

]]> By: Narcissus http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30738 Narcissus Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:02:53 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30738 Anon sci @ 24: Thanks for the copy-and-paste posting on multiple threads, dick. If you're sincere in your comment (and I have my doubts about that), then you need help with your paranoia. See a psychologist, pronto. Anon sci @ 24: Thanks for the copy-and-paste posting on multiple threads, dick.
If you’re sincere in your comment (and I have my doubts about that), then you need help with your paranoia. See a psychologist, pronto.

]]> By: anonymous scientologist http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30734 anonymous scientologist Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:33:35 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30734 As a Scientology parishioner, I have gotten to endure the “anonymous” attacks on my church. So why the big lie about it’s not against the members of Scientology? The only evil wrong-doers “anonymous” is facing up to are themselves in a mirror. You’re cowards. I still go to my church. I’m not a coward. I’m still doing Scientology. And please don’t come back with the generality “It’s the church!” Meaning me, but you want to make it out that there is a big bugaboo somewhere you are talking about. Put up or shut up on your allegations. And that doesn’t mean me, you vicious bleaters. As a Scientology parishioner, I have gotten to endure the “anonymous” attacks on my church. So why the big lie about it’s not against the members of Scientology? The only evil wrong-doers “anonymous” is facing up to are themselves in a mirror. You’re cowards. I still go to my church. I’m not a coward. I’m still doing Scientology. And please don’t come back with the generality “It’s the church!” Meaning me, but you want to make it out that there is a big bugaboo somewhere you are talking about. Put up or shut up on your allegations. And that doesn’t mean me, you vicious bleaters.

]]> By: roger gonnet http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30671 roger gonnet Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:54:05 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30671 Alas, there are lots of other unknown or known suicides into the cult, and in many countries. I know personnaly a lot of people having thought to commit, having tried to commit or having committed successfully suicide directly or indirectly because of the cult methods. Incredible as it may seem, some suicides have even been committed by people who, believing in scientology, thought they could choose a better family in a "next life", since they were'nt satisfied with their "present life" family. Lots of other corpses still remain under carpets and in drawers of the cult upper direction in Hemet or in Los Angeles, Cal. Alas, there are lots of other unknown or known suicides into the cult, and in many countries. I know personnaly a lot of people having thought to commit, having tried to commit or having committed successfully suicide directly or indirectly because of the cult methods.

Incredible as it may seem, some suicides have even been committed by people who, believing in scientology, thought they could choose a better family in a “next life”, since they were’nt satisfied with their “present life” family.

Lots of other corpses still remain under carpets and in drawers of the cult upper direction in Hemet or in Los Angeles, Cal.

]]> By: Unnamed Person http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30661 Unnamed Person Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:55:35 +0000 http://glosslip.com/2008/03/18/one-very-compelling-reason-to-protest-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-30661 Her story is utterly heartbreaking. The fundamental problem with the Church of Scientology is its horrendous lack of compassion. Regardless of the legal definition of religion, surely, society considers a religious group to be one that is compassionate. Her story is utterly heartbreaking.

The fundamental problem with the Church of Scientology is its horrendous lack of compassion.

Regardless of the legal definition of religion, surely, society considers a religious group to be one that is compassionate.

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