Member Of Anonymous In Boston Being Fair-Gamed By Scientology
I keep reading more and more stories about members of Anonymous being tracked down, harassed, entrapped and incarcerated at the hands of the Church of Scientology.
In some ways, this should come as no surprise based on the vicious and litigious history of the CoS, but in this day and age you would think a legitimate religion could withstand criticism and continue to thrive and move forward. But therein lies the problem, Scientology is NOT a legitimate religion in its current form. I am even beginning to suspect it may not be a legitimate philosophy in any form.
Up until now, I have reserved calling the Church of Scientology a cult. Well, I guess the time has come for me to take off the rose-colored glasses, as clearly David Miscavige and those within the Church of Scientology who support him are in fact running a brutal and ruthless CULT for the sole purpose of destroying lives, obtaining power and making as much money as possible.
Let’s talk about Gregg. He is a young man who lives in Boston. Here’s his story as it was relayed to me:
“Today Gregg received a summons for criminal trespass and criminal harassment.
An 8 inch stack of complaints have been filed against him by the cult. But they finally got one to stick.
The Boston anons go out flyering every weekend. On March 9th the anons that Gregg was with decided to hand deliver the flyers to the Church on Beacon Street in Boston .
As the anons walked up the front stairs to the Boston Church, 4 Scientologists came rushing out and Gregg and the anons handed the Scientologists the flyers. The Scientologists asked the anons to leave and so they did leave, immediately. The anons have it all on video.
However the Church as managed to somehow get this one to stick and brought charges against Gregg.
Gregg will be making a scan of the summons for people to see.”
There are several caveats to this story which I am not including, but suffice it to say that Gregg was singled out for a reason, and like the predator the CoS is, they pounced on Gregg and are using him to set an example.
The reason they’ve been allowed to do this, they being Scientology, is because the mainstream media, or as Andrew Morton called them, “the elite media” (and out of touch I’d add) refuse to follow up on the story in any way. Without the pressure of the big media, Scientology will be able to destroy people like Gregg, and anyone else they single out of the herd.
I am angry, frustrated, mentally taxed, bewildered and disgusted that people who call themselves journalists are intentionally and flagrantly avoiding any kind of critical analysis of Scientology’s evil, vile practices and by way of this side-stepping, condoning the “fair gaming,” “disconnection policy,” “unfair tax protection and exemption” which the CoS is allowed to perpetrate unchecked.
I don’t know Gregg, but I don’t have to. I know the many, many mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends and associates who make up Anonymous, and any one of them could be Gregg. Gregg could be you some day, and Gregg, could definitely be me. It’s only a matter of time. This is how Scientology has managed to survive, no better yet, thrive. In the dark places where good people avoid, in secrecy, in veiled and implied threats.
This cannot go on. The destruction MUST stop.
Gregg needs legal counsel, assistance and likely, moral support in fighting these charges and I appeal to those with the means and know-how to contact me so we can help Gregg. In fact, I propose a fund or a network be set up to help folks like Gregg, for there will be more.
Anonymous has strength in its numbers, I challenge Anonymous to prove it is stronger than the CoS, more powerful than the media, more courageous than the authorities and more moral than the government.
It’s time to circle the wagon, protect the herd.
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Way to go Dawn! I’ve read your posts on scientology from the beginning and I think that I was in a naive place at the start. I didn’t think of scientology as any more harmful than any other religion. I’ve changed my mind. It hasn’t been from what you’ve written, to be honest. You’ve encouraged me to look into things for myself, though. I’ve read both sides. I’ve looked at the scientology websites and the critics websites. I’ve resisted the urge to jump to conclusions and declare the church evil….. but there is something wrong in it, something at the core of scientology that is very, very wrong, and it needs to be fixed.
Throughout all of my comments here, I’ve tried to treat Terryeo fairly. To be honest, I’ve come to admire his dedication to his church (not his faith… his church… he is unquestionably dedicated to both). If any scientologist wants mainstream society to take his faith seriously, he must condemn his church. This is a personal plea… Terryeo, PLEASE!!!! You seem like a person who will dedicate himself to something that is right!!! Please, please, please, leave the church!!! Help us do what’s right! Help us bring down the rotten core of Scientology!!!!
Comment by Thomas — March 27, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
Good article as always Dawn!
I’ve been reading this site for a few months now and you’ve certainly got some good coverage!
Lets hope gregg is alright. From what I heard the charges against him are frivolous at best thanks to video evidence. So that should be good for him!
Comment by Jukka Minton — March 27, 2008 @ 9:15 pm
I would be happy to publicize this person’s story on UniversalHub.com and b0st0n.livejournal.com . Let me know what needs to be done.
Comment by Ron Newman — March 27, 2008 @ 9:46 pm
Gregg is a very nice and well-intentioned young man who has not committed any acts of harassment, but has merely used his own civil right to free speech to publicize this cause. I’d be interested to see what evidence, if any, the “church” has presented to back up their claims of harassment and trespass.
This is ridiculous, and horribly, horribly wrong. For now, we must have faith in the ability of the justice system to see through the pretense of victimhood in which this evil “church” is trying to cloak itself.
By the way, OSA, that’s my opinion, and last I heard, I’m allowed to have one, and to shout it from the rooftops. Chew on that, you jerks.
Comment by MomAnon — March 27, 2008 @ 10:24 pm
Another knock for the ’spiritual’ mafia of Scientology.
Comment by MaxwellSmart — March 27, 2008 @ 10:28 pm
Thank you Dawn for everything you have done. The cult of scientology is proving again and again that the horror stories are true. No matter the amount of PR or spin they try to apply, the truth is being shown. By their words and by their actions.
I know that while learning more and more about scientology this year there have been many times that I’ve been shocked. Every time I think it cant get any worse, that they can’t possibly have done these things, I am proven wrong. The cult of scientology has a long history of abuse and deceit. Even if the mainstream media is not, the world is watching and taking note.
We are Anonymous
We are legion
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Because of the actions of scientology like this one
Expect More of Us
Comment by Anonymous#734,287 — March 27, 2008 @ 10:29 pm
Everytime the church does this kind of thing, they always end up looking like monsters. And individuals like Gregg come across as being victimized by the church. People sympathize with him. The church is digging their own graves.
The COS members are dwindling.They will eventually not have as much money as they do now with all the litigation. Eventually, they’ll have to stop bringing critics to court. And in the process, the public will not trust a word they say. It will get harder and harder for new people to join. They are doing this to themselves. Let the beast turn within. It might take time. But it is on its way.
We will not give up!
Comment by Anonymous — March 27, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
Every time I hear a Scientologist say “Fair game” doesn’t exist, something like this comes along. One thing Scientology doesn’t realize is that the only people they can successfully lie to and control are people IN the church. Everyone on the outside knows how they work and can see right through your BS. Well maybe not EVERYONE but Anonymous is workin’ on that one.
Scientology = schoolyard bully, and nothing better.
Comment by JaneDoe — March 27, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
Dawn, I think you’re being unfair to the ‘elite media’. Many newspaper and TV exposes of the CoS have appeared, many journalists have been harassed, many law suits pursued. And what have they achieved? So far as the press can see, nothing. Scientology is still there.
Take the St Petersburg Times. It has consistently and firmly told the truth about Scientology - it won a Pulitzer prize for doing so. Without the support of local people and politicians it can do no more, and it hasn’t had that support - annoyance has never translated into action.
As for your present piece, the CoS is behaving predictably. They can’t find the leaders of Anonymous so they are going to pick on random members, attack them until some are silenced, and hope the rest get the message. There will be more minor court cases as they throw money and lawyers at individuals, probing for weak spots. Anonymity is not a protection its a publicity stunt, and Anonymous had better learn that fast.
Comment by hartley patterson — March 27, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
I honestly didn’t know this article was going up. Someone showed it to me about 45 minutes ago. Thanks for putting this up Dawn. I do appreciate it.
Thanks for all the kind comments as well. For people wondering how I got tracked down its actually very simple. I get the permits for the Boston protests. Its public record and they can look it up.
We have 2 different videos of the event in question and both show us doing nothing illegal. I will however need to get an attorney for this one. The ACLU didn’t seem to interested when I called today. So I am not sure what I am going to do about that. I don’t have any money to spend on this. I make it check to check right now. So we will have to see what happens.
Comment by gregg — March 27, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
Someone is not me because I don’t have free time, but
Someone setup a legal defense fund, i will contribute money.
Someone should send out a press release to the boston globe.
Comment by annon — March 27, 2008 @ 11:27 pm
“Anonymity is not a protection its a publicity stunt, and Anonymous had better learn that fast.”
I have to disagree with you on that, ol’ chum. The CoS will always learn that messing with a member is akin to sticking your penis in a blender. A very stupid thing to do
Comment by Maxwellsmart — March 27, 2008 @ 11:38 pm
In response to #11. If people do actually want to help in that way I could use the help. I just didnt post about it because ive never been good at that.
I quite honestly have $21 in my pocket and nothing in the bank as of tonight. So I cant cover the legal costs or anything else about this really.
I dont know what people would want to do. My email address for paypal is greggatghc (AT) gmail.com. Of course you’ll need to replace the (AT) to get it to work. Is this what people were thinking? Or something else?
Comment by gregg — March 27, 2008 @ 11:49 pm
I’m not a lawyer, nor am I anywhere near Boston. But if a legal defense fund is established and certified to be legit by Gregg (through Dawn so we know it’s legit) then I will be sure to make routine donations each time I get paid. If a large chunk of anons gave $5 - $10 each payday then I suspect Gregg would have a nice warchest in pretty short order.
If there is something more I can do to help I would love to know and I will help how ever I can.
Comment by anonyTurk182 — March 27, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
This is terrible! As an ex-Scientologist I have seen the lengths they will go to in order to destroy anyone they deem an enemy. Hardly the actions of a peaceful, openminded religion. Most Scientologists don’t know what goes in the OSA’s heads, it’s all sunshine and roses to them.
Comment by bgodley — March 28, 2008 @ 12:01 am
gregg? if not one else has told you this yet, try to get a hold of Graham Berry. i believe he’s representing sean c. who’s also been drug into court by the Co$. go to enturbulation and check there for info. i know there’s at least one thread with that info.
yes, the st. pete times has done their job in reporting this. the Co$ has tried to ruin them—the Co$ did ruin another smaller pinellas co. newspaper that used to pick on the big bad cult. aww–cult can’t take it? or just google graham’s name and give him a call.
anonymous was fully aware that this was going to happen. there is just so much going on that gregg doesn’t know about mr. berry.
anonymity IS protection. the clearwater police department has TOLD anons that they SHOULD disguise themselves as much as they possibly can. if the cwpd is telling us to stay masked? i’d hardly call that a publicity stunt.
hartley, you need to lurk moar and understand what anonymous is all about instead of making comments that are just not true. i guess i need to get myself into OCMB and find out why you’re making snide comments about anonymous. i.e.: “are you a good witch or a bad witch?” type thing.
now. when this cult implodes on itself and all the sordid disgusting inhumane things that it’s done and that it’s doing RIGHT NOW are brought out into the light of day, i cannot wait to show every major media outlet exactly how very hard so many people worked to try to get something done for so many years. ***ty old guard. ty ex-scientologists. i do hope that this is finally “it” for your sakes. you all have labored so long and so hard.***
because you know what, bigshot media outlets? just like the Co$ can’t control the internet? NEITHER CAN YOU.
that goes for politicians and celebritologists, too. you all don’t get a naivety “pass” either. shame on every politcian who passed through legislation for applied scholastics or narCONon or criminon. shame on every celebritologist who endorsed and promoted this cult so that people were duped into joining this evil cult and having to live in hell.
for every disgusting story we hear of RPF abuses and human trafficking and child abuse and breaking child labor laws and enslavement and elder abuse and rape and sexual molestation and forced abortion and breaking people to the point of suicide and MURDER about you? i want you to know that there are, as of right now, 10,000+ people who work 24 hours a day around this whole wide world to make sure that the people who are repsonsible for these reprehensible acts of cruelty are brought to justice no mater how long it takes.
no matter how long it takes.
this is the future: these young people started this fire. they looked at $cientology and said, “not in our world.” after they made their stand–every good and decent person of every age who has learned what this fight is about have also said, “not in our world.”
some amongst us may love the lulz, but at the core of every anon is the endless determination to stop the abominations of this cult that cloaks itself as a church. a wolf in sheep’s clothing if ever there was one.
i just love you, dawn! you’re amazing and steadfast and brave. plus, you’re cute as a button!
Comment by AnonMomAnon — March 28, 2008 @ 12:08 am
Not sure if Graham is able to practice law in Mass. Still, he might know a guy who knows a guy…only thing more incestuous than the legal profession is European royalty.
(…I mean that in the nicest way possible!
Comment by Rick A — March 28, 2008 @ 12:21 am
If you write a press release, you should send it not just to the Globe, but also to the Herald, Phoenix, Weekly Dig, Boston Courant (a Back Bay weekly), Back Bay Sun, and South End News (since Scientology wants to move from the Back Bay to the South End).
Comment by Ron Newman — March 28, 2008 @ 12:50 am
Gregg, starting April 7th, I will have very steady employment from a major financial institution and will be able to contribute money to help your warchest.
Like you, I can’t speak for all of Anonymous, but I can tell you that I plan to help you fight this.
Dawn, thank you so much for this article. I’m glad that so many journalists, bloggers and other media are finally speaking out against the Church’s fraud and abuse. There’s still a great fear among your peers about what the Church will do if you are critical of them and to stand up and do so in even in the face of such pressure is very brave and I commend you for that. Also, if you are able to see my email, feel free contact me about a fund set up for Gregg.
Comment by CentOHAnon — March 28, 2008 @ 1:36 am
So sorry to hear this Gregg but not a bit surprised. If Dawn sets up an anon defense fund here I will gladly give. I’ll go without something so that I can give. It’s that important. Come on people. Skip that trip to McDs or that extra Starbucks coffee and ante up! Every little bit will help. 1 buck doesnt seem like much but when 10,000 give a buck………
I agree with Dawn to a point. Majority of the media is either ignoring this or doing piddly little articles that go unnoticed. I miss the OG reporters who couldn’t be bought or frightened off and weren’t afraid to tackle the issues. They reported actual news instead of this Op/Ed garbage that passes for news these days.
I wonder if the reporter from TIME magazine is ready for round two. Somebody with some media connections should give a shout out.
Comment by DT100 — March 28, 2008 @ 1:40 am
Gregg, you have my condolences, but unfortunately there’s nothing I can do to help except raise awareness of this article, which I will attempt.
Dawn, you’ve written an excellent article. I stumbled on it randomly, and it’s one of the best ones I’ve seen on the internet.
I just want to let you guys know that your efforts are being rewarded.
I was there when the whole thing was brought up. I was there when the raids were proposed, and I watched on January 18th as Anonymous launched their first invasion. Since then, I’ve assisted with inner-planning, given advice, created posters and fliers from scratch, distributed propaganda, and so forth. I’m pleased to see the amount of progress that’s been made thus far.
You would be surprised about the hype this is stirring up in the unseen world.
I’ve conversed with a few of my old friends recently, and mentioned, on the side, CoS vs. Anonymous. All of them; ALL OF THEM know about it. Some of THEM even mentioned it to ME. All of them agree fully with Anonymous; all of them want to watch the foundations of a rotten corporate bully crumble. This fight is growing. It’s gotten to gigantic proportions, and it’s not done gathering the masses. As an Anon would say, “Brace for epic!”
I’ve seen fliers around campus. I’ve seen completely unrelated websites and forums mention it online. I’ve watched nearly a hundred people go from complete obliviousness to awareness–and it doesn’t take long. I’ve even witnessed people mention it in casual conversation. My PARENTS know about it.
It’s happening.
The world is watching, media or not.
This deadly cult cannot exist in obscurity forever.
United as one,
Divided by zero.
We are Anonymous.
Brace for impact.
Comment by Anonymous — March 28, 2008 @ 1:52 am
I looked at the statutes in question and I’ve read what’s available publicly. My view is that this is tenuous at best. This is the sort of bogus crap that the CoS takes part in regularly with respect to criticism and it needs all the publicity it can get.
If there are any readers who have ties or association with places like Boston U, Boston College, Harvard, or the other colleges (particularly those with law schools) in the Boston area, they should try to get this in those student papers. This is the sort of bogus bullshit that some overzealous law student, with the help of some all-star professor, would probably be interested in.
If it were me, I’d be doing everything I could to turn this thing 180 degrees on them. It’s all about finding the right people who are willing to take up an issue because of a bigger cause.
Comment by a-non-lawyer — March 28, 2008 @ 1:52 am
Gregg, don’t worry. Once you have a donation button set up, the pharmaceuticals will route money through various individuals to get you all the defense funds you actually need. If needed, they will also get one of the many lawyers in their camp to represent you. They will do this because they really need to put Scientology out of business because these Scilons are keeping people from getting their head meds. These pharmaceuticals really appreciate all the work Anonymous is doing and are willing to go to great lengths to make Anonymous successful.
Comment by Anonymuse — March 28, 2008 @ 2:49 am
I have raised here the issue of the absence of any real journalists in the mainstream media. Look at the war if you want an even bigger example.
I had planned on civilly disobeying what I consider to be an unconstitutional anti-mask ordindance in my city. I deferred to the consensus, and the next demonstration, after I discussed the issue with the police chief, the ordinance wasn’t enforced. But it may be next time. I was/am willing to get arrested to test its constitutionality, and would turn the trial into a trial of the Co$. Gregg should do likewise, to the extent the judge allows it.
When the press is asleep, and the authorities act to protect power, we live in a nightmare.
Comment by marcab — March 28, 2008 @ 5:36 am
Once again well written Dawn. Good idea on the defence fund. Please psot where one can donate. This is abuse of power by the Cos and I wonder if Gregg should consider a civil suit for frivilous charges or defamation of character and such. Where are the good lawyers? C’mon there has got to be one in the bunch willing to do some pro bono stuff. Chin up Gregg. The tide is rising.
Comment by Too Mitsu — March 28, 2008 @ 5:59 am
The “church” needs to realize that anonymous is unlike any enemy they have ever faced.
The more they try to fair game anonymous, the more people will flock to anon and denounce the practices of the church.
Please keep up the good work D. Your writing is some of the best on this subject.
Comment by anonymous — March 28, 2008 @ 6:27 am
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Hang in there Gregg, most of us are behind you 100%. Also, you need to contact the ACLU at (617) 482-3170 and make sure they’re aware of this crap. Chances are pretty good that they might be able to connect you with a pro-bono lawyer.
Comment by Bumblefreak — March 28, 2008 @ 8:41 am
Gregg most large law firms do pro bono work. Contact Graham Berry, ask for a referral, this is nothing but tea time to a huge powerful law firm. Get your story out there, contact Radar Onine, they are asking for more examples of this, send press releases…and make sure that many people have copies of your evidence videos.
Be safe.
When one falls ten more will rise up to take his place.
EXPECT US.
Comment by anonv2.0 — March 28, 2008 @ 9:03 am
[…] En días recientes, los Cienciólogos han enviado abogados a personas que creen que son parte de Anonymous, como le sucedió a Jonathan. Considerando la agresividad de la Iglesia de la Cienciología, seguramente veremos más de estos casos, de hecho ya está sucediendo. […]
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My small donation is on it’s way. Thank you for your bravery Gregg, and your valiant efforts, Dawn.
Comment by Anonomomily — March 28, 2008 @ 9:23 am
We will help. Point us to a place to contribute for a legal fund and we’re there.
Another amazing foot bullet. The Co$ is just digging itself deeper and deeper into hell.
Also, read this Open Letter. It really tells it:
http://www.itsyourtimes.com/?q=node/3528
The SP Times does a good job fighting the cult of greed and power.
Comment by itsabaddayfor$cientology — March 28, 2008 @ 10:01 am
I may be outing myself a bit here, but as a member of the “mainstream media” I have for years pitched my editors on stories about Scientology- my logic was that if I was both disgusted and fascinated by certain aspects about this “religion,” readers would be too. How wrong I was.
Sadly, Fair Game worked- after the Time article, there was a chilling effect. Publishers became concerned that they too would be caught up in costly and time consuming litigation. At the end of the day publishers are businesspeople; they don’t relish the possibility of losing money, especially if they’re asked to defend a topic that they consider of interest only to a small percentage of their readership.
There are many journalists who would love to write huge exposes on the CoS, but unless it includes Tom and Katie, the gatekeepers to the public squash most journalistic efforts- even then, fear of Tom Cruise’s attack lawyer Burt Fields ensures that Tom’s coverage is kid-gloved under the threat of a standard $100M lawsuit. Right now, the only thing we as concerned journalists can do is wait until there is a moment of interest and jump on it, no matter how keen we are.
With the inception of the internet has come a few brave souls who are willing to brave the CoS’s wrath- Maer Roshan of Radar, Nick Denton of the Gawker group and our very own Dawn of Glosslip spring to mind. Most Scinos are on the CoS’s net nanny system, so the OSA doesn’t panic as quickly, as there is only limited access to the net by CoS members.
However, until there are criminal charges that are levelled against Church leaders, the mainstream media coverage that OSA genuinely fears will continue to remain mute. It’s just not worth the hassle to the editors and publishers while they remain convinced that these are two marginal groups involved in nothing but an online flame war.
The power of Anonymous could change all that. Write openly and often to the editors and publishers of your favorite media outlets. The power of investigation that these outlets can visit upon the CoS is impressive- if enough interest is shown, those reluctant editors and publishers will realise there is a market and react accordingly.
Comment by Nameless (but not anonymous) — March 28, 2008 @ 10:14 am
Thanks for all the comments everyone. I dont know really how to respond. I’ve never had this many people thinking good thoughts for me.
I really appreciate all of this. I put an email address for paypal in an earlier comment. I didnt know if thats what people wanted or not, but I figured its something that is actually up now so it would work. Its greggatghc@gmail.com
Comment by gregg — March 28, 2008 @ 10:29 am
“I am angry, frustrated, mentally taxed, bewildered and disgusted that people who call themselves journalists are intentionally and flagrantly avoiding any kind of critical analysis of Scientology’s evil, vile practices and by way of this side-stepping, condoning the “fair gaming,” “disconnection policy,” “unfair tax protection and exemption” which the CoS is allowed to perpetrate unchecked.”
This is what I’ve been saying all along. Mainstream journalists have compeltely failed the public. They don’t write news, they write what they think will be the path of least resistence. And it places us all in jepardy that they fail at their jobs. They are cowards, hacks, and not real journalists in the traditional sense. Welcome to the 21’st century. Thank god for the few real journalists like glosslip.
Comment by Jeff — March 28, 2008 @ 10:39 am
It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when what was once simply a celebrity gossip column becomes one of the best sources of information on this development.
I mean no offense at all D and K. It’s just that I never expected to be visiting (and commenting on) a celebrity gossip site for my most current news about Anon v. CoS.
Again, no offense, celebrity gossip just wasn’t my cup of tea. Although, I’ll have to admit, Amy Winehouse does look like $hit. Great, suck me in with the Scieno articles and get me reading about the Hogans and Britney Spears. Jerks!
Seriously, love ya both.
Comment by Anon, Anon, My Boyfriend's Back! — March 28, 2008 @ 11:18 am
I believe Henry David Thoreau’s “civil disobedience” and taking the principled stand against Scienotlogy is the correct approach. Follow the laws, break no laws, but expose Scientology’s disgraceful policies.
anon people MUST have to hand and HAND TO THE POLICE copies of Hubbard’s actual policy letters, Hubbard’s writings, give the doctrines to the police officers, so that POLICE ARE INFORMED that the police are being USED by the official Scientologists! Police are playing Scientology scriptures out! OSA Network Bulletin 15, BLACK PROPAGANDA, are Scientology’s scriptures that police are being hoodwinked and duped to execute FOR THE SCIENTOLOGISTS. anon people, print off the Hubbard policies, INFORM the police that the police are being duped into carrying out Scientoology’s scriptures. GET TO THE SOURCE! Scientologists run on the Hubbard blueprints. Well just print off and hand over the scriptures to the police, if the MEDIA isn’t going to report on this!
Chuck Beatty, ex staff training supervisor, Scientology lifetime staff (Sea Org), 1975-2003. Call me anytime, 412-260-1170, Pittsburgh, USA
Comment by Chuck Beatty — March 28, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
“I am angry, frustrated, mentally taxed, bewildered and disgusted that people who call themselves journalists are intentionally and flagrantly avoiding any kind of critical analysis of Scientology’s evil, vile practices and by way of this side-stepping, condoning the “fair gaming,” “disconnection policy,” “unfair tax protection and exemption” which the CoS is allowed to perpetrate unchecked.”
To reiterate- journalists WANT to write about the CoS- it’s our editors who refuse to allow us. Write to the publishers of your favorite magazines and newspapers, to your television stations and networks. Let them know that there IS interest, and they’ll cover it.
I’ve been researching the CoS for years, just for the opportunity to write about them. If the publishers are shown there is an audience for this type of news, they will let us write it, investigate it, expose it. Please help us. Write to our editors, publishers, station owners and networks. Let them know you care, and want to know more. They’ll listen.
Comment by Nameless (but not anonymous) — March 28, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
This is twisted.
The Church does not have any interest in Gregg’s “destruction” and is not doing “Fair Game” (a practice forbidden over forty years ago.)
The Church is simply following legal due action to keep Gregg from harrassing Church members.
It is Gregg, and his Anonymous cronies, who have announced they want THE DESTRUCTION OF SCIENTOLOGY. So, how you figure that it is the Church doing the victimizing, and this a-hole being the victim, is beyond me.
Sincerely,
Greg
Scientologist and proud of it
http://www.liveandgrow.org
Comment by Greg — March 28, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
comment #32 & #37 from nameless are worth reading.
the media are just people, they aren’t annointed to battle every injustice. its clear scientology is being damaged by anonymous’ light-shining, and continued work will have an effect the media will pick up on.
Comment by ilovelrunhubbardforlaughs — March 28, 2008 @ 4:04 pm
#38: greg: how are you allowed to even read this website? what about the gareth cales stuff? the movement is against the corporation, not the religion.
Comment by ilovelrunhubbardforlaughs — March 28, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Re: #38. Greg, I’m glad that you’re a proud scientologist. Please join us in trying to fix your organization.
As far as this particular situation goes, scientology is overreacting. We all know that the charges are eventually going to get thrown out. They’re frivolous, and the whole bloody thing is on tape. It almost seems that the point of the lawsuit is to harrass rather than to win…. Scientology is creating members of anonymous at an extremely fast rate!! I certainly never planned on protesting the church until I found out how the church has behaved in the past, and then witnessed it happening right now….
Comment by Thomas — March 28, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Greg,
How can you be a proud Scientologist when you see things like this, where your church is actively suppressing the right to free speech by its critics? For an organization that claims to want to free the world, they sure are tying it up in a lot of useless red tape.
Comment by h20 — March 28, 2008 @ 4:45 pm
#38, fair game was cancelled in name only. HCO PL 21 Oct 1968 says: “This P/L does not cancel any policy on the treatment or handling of an SP.” Is that what makes you proud to be a scientologist? http://www.fairgamed.org/
The creed of Scientology, item 7 says “That all men have inalienable rights to think freely,to talk freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others.”
Gregg distributed flyers which happens to be “talking freely his own opinions and writing upon the opinions of others” your creed says this is a right of ALL men, not just you and your fellow brainwashed zombies
tl;dr
poster number 38: you are a hypocrite.
Comment by Terryeo — March 28, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
[…] protestor from Boston has been the target of the “cancelled” policy of Fair Game. Via Glosslips: Today Gregg received a summons for criminal trespass and criminal harassment.An 8 inch stack of […]
Pingback by End The Cult » Blog Archive » Boston Anonymous being targeted by cult — March 28, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
COS persecution…
This is bullshit:
http://glosslip.com/2008/03/27/member-of-anonymous-in-bo…...
Trackback by tribe.net: glosslip.com — March 28, 2008 @ 6:32 pm
Alas greg. You say fair game has been cancelled. But as a scientolgoist, you must engage in the search for truth. And the truth is not confined to media material produced by the church of scientology. Given the massive reports of fair game tactics, in all but name, being applied to critics of scientology today, how can you say fair game has been cancelled? When high level ex scientolgoists say they participated in fair game, how can it have been cancelled. When PI’s are following peaceful protesters to learn their identity how can fair game be cancelled? When people are being frivolous litigated, how can you say it has been cancelled. When every source outside the church of scientology says ,conclusively, that fair game is still happening, how can you say absolutely that it isn’t. How can you say without a shadow of a doubt, that even a rogue group, similar to the one scientology itself says was the cause of operation snow white, isn’t fair gaming people.
Comment by anon — March 28, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
scientology’s true colors are showing. you can fool some of the prople all of the tome, all of the people some of the time however not all of the People all of the time. Alot of People are watching and have been for a long while now and are working to stop a cult of greed and power=scientology. i Pray for the Truth evernight and am sure others are as well.
Comment by judy — March 28, 2008 @ 8:16 pm
k here once again.
How many times do I have to keep saying this? Whether you be CoS or anon, stop impersonating other people. It’s confusing to n00bs, not to mention rude. And it’s disrespectful to Dawn and I because we have to waste OUR time rooting out who is who.
So put a sock in it or take your suckpoppetry somewhere else.
Comment by k — March 28, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
Right on, very well said. WHERE are the journalists, exactly?! This negligence in reporting has been going on for years - I guess reporters/journalists are too afraid of being fair-gamed themselves. Someone has to stand up to this evil cult, and I agree 100% that a fund should be started. It would be nice if a big name lawyer who really believed in civil rights, etc., would step up to the plate too. Good work, keep up the excellent articles on the Co$ - Scientologists, Scientology has got to be stopped.
Comment by Canadian — March 29, 2008 @ 1:04 am
Everyone should contact the ACLU and tell them that this is a very important cause / case and they should represent Greg. I’m sending my email right now.
Comment by Canadian — March 29, 2008 @ 1:08 am
go to http://www.lisamcpherson.org to find the truth about this evil, moneygrubbing, power hungry, vicious cult.
Comment by Canadian — March 29, 2008 @ 1:15 am
This is what Scientology believes in:
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisapics.htm
If you are giving a donation, be sure it goes to the right Gregg, and not to a scientologist impersonating him.
Comment by Anon — March 29, 2008 @ 1:29 am
Check out fairgamed.org — the Scientology crime syndicate’s racketeering is well documented.
Comment by Fredric L. Rice — March 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
[…] SPREAD THE WORD March 29, 2008 — L. Ron Brown The following is a cut-and-paste from GlossLip: I keep reading more and more stories about members of Anonymous being tracked down, harassed, […]
Pingback by Anonymous Boston Scientology Protester Being Fair Game’d, SPREAD THE WORD « The Frame Problem — March 29, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
Gregg good luck, im too poor to send you money. But I surely would if I was in a different situation. You will look back on this as a time, in which you stood up and made a point. You will smile and tell your kids, you have a voice and are not a worthless american brainwashed by the elite media.
Comment by Anonymous — March 29, 2008 @ 7:30 pm
Comment #23 was written by Scientologist
http://glosslip.com/2008/03/27/member-of-anonymous-in-boston-being-fair-gamed-by-scientology/#comment-32475
Comment by Anonymous — March 29, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
[…] En días recientes, los Cienciólogos han enviado abogados a personas que creen que son parte de Anonymous, como le sucedió a Jonathan. Considerando la agresividad de la Iglesia de la Cienciología, seguramente veremos más de estos casos, de hecho ya está sucediendo. […]
Pingback by Guía para comprender para entender a ” Anonymous ” « Hermanos Báez — March 30, 2008 @ 9:01 am
4chan, 711chan and Anonymous are back to their old tactics.
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/03/epilepsy
They are little better than Scientology thugs.
Comment by poptart — March 30, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Part of the Fair Gaming of Anon can be seen in comment 58. Anon is *not* 4chan and 711chan, but the Cult thinks it is.
Dawn: Paulette Cooper’s comment that Scientology is far far *worse* than you think will become clear to you if you really start looking into this. Welcome to Scientology criticism.
Comment by Jane Doe — March 30, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
Anonymous is just that - people who don’t use their names because they don’t want to be stalked. It does not only refer to channers or g00ns or whichever website is the current scapegoat.
I protested, in a mask, on 3/15 and I will do it again on 4/12. There were definitely channers there–but there were also people from lots of other places.
I am not a channer and never have been. I’m also married, degreed, 38, don’t live in my mother’s basement, and am not a hacker, IT professional, or World of Warcraft junkie. I just care about this issue a great deal.
These Anonymous stereotypes do die hard, don’t they?
Comment by diasthema — March 30, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
And poptart it is not beneath the CoS and OSA to perpetuate their own hacking of sites and blame anonymous for it. They sent themselves bomb threats ( see Paulette Cooper) in an attempt to frame a journalist so hacking into an epilepsy site to stir some shit would not be past them. Ask Tory Cristman. This is all part of fair game. So unless there is more evidence to the contrary any of these “incidents” are suspect to me.
Comment by Mitsu Too — March 30, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
It’s clear to me that anonymous who DO originate from 711chan and 4chan as raids are organized here. Are starting to see the Co$ around every dark corner, and anyone who has a different opinion that of anonymous, are slandered, insulted and called ‘agents’ of scientology. Paranoid trolls, go back to raiding habbo hotel where you belong.
Comment by poptart — March 30, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
I’ll go on record as saying the creepy elements of the old Anon suck hard and long. They don’t care about exposing the CoS, merely causing trouble. They want to take credit for something REAL critics have been doing for years and years before any of these punks were out of their diapers.
Also, picking on epileptics, WTF? What’s next, throwing rocks at the disabled, drowning kittens? GROW up and leave the activism to adults if you can’t be helpful, crawl back in the stinky basement you came from.
The way they act, they might as well be in OSA.
Comment by D — March 30, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
Where can we see this video?
Comment by Hillary — March 30, 2008 @ 6:15 pm
This video here is what people who clicked on the links would have seen…
***WARNING*** Might be harmful if you suffer from epilepsy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwwDutZgQrQ
As it’s common from posters on 4chan, 711chan and anonymous who use the boards, they hate ebamsworld.com (for reasons I don’t know) but they tried to blame the attack on them, but conversations about the raid where seen on 4chan and 711chan.
Comment by poptart — March 30, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
I agree with Dawn regarding that element of anonymous but it irks me that when something happens some people immediately accredit these despicable acts to all of Anonymous as a whole. I am neiter a 4 chan or 711chan member or troll. Comments like poptarts seem to group all anonymous as one. This movement has evolve beyond the bargain basement hackers and trolls. I am not anonymous but a member of the general public who chooses to remain anonymous. If you seek to see the CoS evolve, reform or disolve you need to stay focus on the problems. Anyone with half a brain cannot help but see that there is a major problem with the way the CoS operates. And as the title of this thread so clearly sated a young man has been fair gamed by the church and there is good reason for people to remain anonymous.
Comment by Mitsu Too — March 30, 2008 @ 6:36 pm
But dear Mitsu Too (#66) One of anonymous slogans is “United as one” it would appear to me that anonymous who ever they are behind the masks should address the corruption within their own group before attacking an equality corrupt one such as Co$. Or would you prefer to go back to basics? Trolling the furry fandom, raiding secondlife, web boards and habbo hotel?
Comment by poptart — March 30, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
But poptart anonymous has reported quite frequently acts such as these. They were the first to notify the FBI of Bomb threats and I have seen them often admonishing anons who got out of line. Sadly you can’t be in all places at once and no matter what the group there are always some who seek thier own agenda. Anonymous is everyone yet is no one. You are actually anonymous poptart. My point is that the very nature of the CoS I have seen so far is to distract people away from the topic at hand. Diversionary tactics 101. Right now I have no idea if you are a scilon, a general anon or one of those ebaum trolls. I reall quite clearly recall our dear Rev. Jacob C. Reist. A troll extraordinaire getting people riled up. Are you of the same cloth? Do you beleive the CoS needs reforming? People of like mind on one topic do not have to be like minded.
Comment by Mitsu Too — March 30, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
Poptart, I appreciate your concern, but you’ve made your point. Anymore posts on this matter will be bordering on spam and it make me think you are some kind of Scilon or OSA plant trying to derail the efforts to expose the abuses of the CoS by discrediting Anonymous.
If that isn’t your intent, then quit posting on this matter, if it is, well I’ve voiced my feelings so the matter will be dealt with accordingly. Not trying to be a beeyotch, but I don’t want to have to add policing the comments to my already overbooked list of responsibilities.
thx
Comment by D — March 30, 2008 @ 8:20 pm
I moved out of Clearwater last fall… I was under the impression that Clearwater has stopped resisting the cult of scientology and that the cops are actually pretty much on the side of the church now - providing “security” at cult events, keeping skeptics away, threatening arrest of protesters, etc. Am I wrong?
Comment by craig — March 30, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
Scientology is vicious:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/06/writer-i-was-stalked-by-scientologists.php#more
Comment by Jon Revolta — March 30, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
Read all about the creeps (Scientologists) - 30 years ago they were psychos and they’re even worse now:
http://www2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/cooper/sos.html
Comment by Jon Revolta — March 30, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
The Scandal Behind the Scandal:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/cooper/scandal_behind_scandal.html
Comment by Toomy P.U. — March 30, 2008 @ 10:43 pm
“Scientology turned out to be worse than anything I ever said or even imagined.”
http://www.lermanet.com/paulette-cooper/
Comment by Kritty Alleycat — March 30, 2008 @ 10:54 pm
I reiterate, anonymous is an adjective, and not a proper noun. I wish it had never been capitalized in any of the flyers, handouts, etc. Because it is not some club, it is a state of being: you are a person whose identity has not been disclosed.
Yes, most Anonymous people came from the internet. The chans are not the whole internet, and in fact if you have a look at the chans there are many people there who hate this whole do-gooder anti-Co$ thing and have nothing but contempt for it. These are clearly NOT the same people who protest and only someone who hadn’t thought it through (or who was trying to mud-sling) would say that they were. They’re merely anonymous because nobody knows who they are.
This confusion is not helped by the word “member” as in this article’s title. Member? O really? What membership application did he fill out? What were the fees? Where was the little pamplet of services he would receive? Where is the roll of members his name is on?
If anonymous as a whole gets the blame for that hackjob, then they also get the credit for these good deeds (hope it balances out):
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0204/p12s01-woap.html
http://www.caymannetnews.com/2006/02/1039/letter5.shtml
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/homeandgarden/Days+out-548.html
Comment by diasthema — March 31, 2008 @ 3:01 am
It saddens me D to hear that my opinion is now considered by you to be spam. But you freely allow dozens of anti-scientology made by anonymous members. I guess this just shows bias.
Comment by poptart — March 31, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
No, I am not as biased as you might think. But you seem to believe poptart, that because one rogue faction does something nasty and vile, that this negates the entire movement to expose the abuses and crimes of the CoS.
I let you post your link and comment, which you did more than once, and now I am saying that unless you have something new to add, your point has been made. I just choose not be blinded by your efforts.
The jerk who did that in the epilepsy forum aren’t the same people who protest against the CoS.
Are you the same as David Miscavige?
Comment by D — March 31, 2008 @ 12:23 pm
I have some contacts in Boston biglaw. I’ll ask around if anybody can do work pro bono on his behalf, although i’m not all that hopeful there. Email David Lat at Abovethelaw.com too. He might know some people.
Comment by anon — April 2, 2008 @ 8:57 pm
the scientology cult has no case if there were not any sigbs in public vie stating no tresspassing and or no soliciting that is the Law they havew such signs and the signs have to be visible to the Public
Comment by judy a — April 4, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
excuse my typos sibs should be signs vie is view sorry
Comment by judy a — April 4, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
i do not believe any annonymous did anything such as what done to that Epilepsy Site.
Comment by judy a — April 4, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
[…] En días recientes, los Cienciólogos han enviado abogados a personas que creen que son parte de Anonymous, como le sucedió a Jonathan. Considerando la agresividad de la Iglesia de la Cienciología, seguramente veremos más de estos casos, de hecho ya está sucediendo. […]
Pingback by Guía para comprender para entender a ” Anonymous ” « Desde las nubes — April 12, 2008 @ 7:48 am
#41: I’m “allowed” to do whatever the f**k I want.
#42: Glosslip,
You’re disingenuous.
None of the people posting here (yourself included) have any interest in “fixing” anything.
Read the posts themselves. And search your own Soul (read your own damn site) - you just want us to dissapear, die, wither into nothing. Well, too bad, ain’t gonna happen.
#43: And as far as “freedom of speech,” well, freedom of speech does not include bullying, harrassing, trespassing, insulting, preventing Church-goers from safely practicing the faith of their choice. Get real and stop whining.
Sincerely,
Greg
Scientologist and proud of it
http://www.liveandgrow.org
Comment by Greg — April 18, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
uuuhhhmmm. how is it trespassing to be on the steps of a PUBLIC CHURCH
1. Law. a. an unlawful act causing injury to the person, property, or rights of another, committed with force or violence.
b. a wrongful entry upon the lands of another.
can you explain that to me?
how is it harassing someone to hand them a flier?
1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute.
2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry
Comment by Libraesque — May 1, 2008 @ 6:57 pm