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		<title>By: Quentin</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/07/wikileaksorg-tells-church-of-scientology-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-39919</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terryeo, or Terry E. Olsen, is what banned from Wikipedia for continual disruptive editing and violation of policies.  
That religious scriptures have defensible copyrights is quite contentious as the act of a government defending such copyrights de facto violates the First Amendment.  Likewise for &quot;religious trademarks&quot;, and even more so.
Religious trademark is an oxymoron.  
Scientology is a business, not a religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terryeo, or Terry E. Olsen, is what banned from Wikipedia for continual disruptive editing and violation of policies.<br />
That religious scriptures have defensible copyrights is quite contentious as the act of a government defending such copyrights de facto violates the First Amendment.  Likewise for &#8220;religious trademarks&#8221;, and even more so.<br />
Religious trademark is an oxymoron.<br />
Scientology is a business, not a religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dio Brando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dio Brando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We already have recorded IPs, in extreme cases the FBI can demand all of an internet siteâ€™s records.&lt;/i&gt;

In b4 &quot;seven mothafuckin&#039; proxies&quot; or the fact that the FBI won&#039;t demand the records on a whim.

Unless I lost my field guide and now they go after protesters of -anything-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We already have recorded IPs, in extreme cases the FBI can demand all of an internet siteâ€™s records.</i></p>
<p>In b4 &#8220;seven mothafuckin&#8217; proxies&#8221; or the fact that the FBI won&#8217;t demand the records on a whim.</p>
<p>Unless I lost my field guide and now they go after protesters of -anything-.</p>
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		<title>By: Centurian 10</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/07/wikileaksorg-tells-church-of-scientology-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-35574</link>
		<dc:creator>Centurian 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE IGNORE THE TROLL TERRYEO

Terryeo is a ranking Scientologist who has trolled the boards trying to cover for his cult for years. There are actually webpages about him. If you post against Scientology then you MUST, in his words, be misinformed, confused, a drug rep or a psychologist. Scientology is a cult and a criminal one at that, not its followers mind you but the leadership, RTC, OSA and the other misc garbage. If people want to believe that they are having a bad time in life because of possession by 75 million year old dead alien sould then so be it but the criminal activitis of the leadership will no longer be tolerated.

Further reading on Terryeo can be found at:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Terryeo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE IGNORE THE TROLL TERRYEO</p>
<p>Terryeo is a ranking Scientologist who has trolled the boards trying to cover for his cult for years. There are actually webpages about him. If you post against Scientology then you MUST, in his words, be misinformed, confused, a drug rep or a psychologist. Scientology is a cult and a criminal one at that, not its followers mind you but the leadership, RTC, OSA and the other misc garbage. If people want to believe that they are having a bad time in life because of possession by 75 million year old dead alien sould then so be it but the criminal activitis of the leadership will no longer be tolerated.</p>
<p>Further reading on Terryeo can be found at:<br />
<a href="http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Terryeo" rel="nofollow">http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Terryeo</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/07/wikileaksorg-tells-church-of-scientology-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-35423</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that it&#039;s after 5pm (TO likes to get the last comment before 5pm eastern 2pm pacific) so that s/he&#039;s upstat for the week. Now to tear Terreyeo apart.

&quot;Iâ€™m somewhat amused by the psychiatrists and Big Pharma employees whom post here, beating their gums, spreading rumor, and objecting to freedom of religion.&quot;

Scientology Lawyers are here? After all I&#039;ve already given you links proving that the lawyers you use to harass protesters (Latham &amp; Watkins) have had a much bigger hand in supporting psych &amp; big pharma then any member of anonymous. Do I need to do that again? And how does it make you feel knowing your own lawyers are working against you?

&quot;But if enough people really, really insist on violating copyright law, then lawmakers will be forced to make more laws about internet use. We already have recorded IPs, in extreme cases the FBI can demand all of an internet siteâ€™s records. Please donâ€™t make the internet less free by continually violating copyright law.&quot;

You neglect to mention that Wikileaks is not located in the US and thus US Law and US law enforcement (the FBI et al) have zero control over them. Wikileaks isn&#039;t violating copyright by hosting documents because their servers aren&#039;t anywhere that scientology copyrights matter.

Try again TO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that it&#8217;s after 5pm (TO likes to get the last comment before 5pm eastern 2pm pacific) so that s/he&#8217;s upstat for the week. Now to tear Terreyeo apart.</p>
<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m somewhat amused by the psychiatrists and Big Pharma employees whom post here, beating their gums, spreading rumor, and objecting to freedom of religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scientology Lawyers are here? After all I&#8217;ve already given you links proving that the lawyers you use to harass protesters (Latham &amp; Watkins) have had a much bigger hand in supporting psych &amp; big pharma then any member of anonymous. Do I need to do that again? And how does it make you feel knowing your own lawyers are working against you?</p>
<p>&#8220;But if enough people really, really insist on violating copyright law, then lawmakers will be forced to make more laws about internet use. We already have recorded IPs, in extreme cases the FBI can demand all of an internet siteâ€™s records. Please donâ€™t make the internet less free by continually violating copyright law.&#8221;</p>
<p>You neglect to mention that Wikileaks is not located in the US and thus US Law and US law enforcement (the FBI et al) have zero control over them. Wikileaks isn&#8217;t violating copyright by hosting documents because their servers aren&#8217;t anywhere that scientology copyrights matter.</p>
<p>Try again TO.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No last minute upstats for you TO. L Ron Hubbard was a theif and David Miscaviage is squirreling the tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No last minute upstats for you TO. L Ron Hubbard was a theif and David Miscaviage is squirreling the tech.</p>
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		<title>By: Terryeo [TM]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terryeo [TM]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m somewhat amused by the psychiatrists and Big Pharma employees whom post here, beating their gums, spreading rumor, and objecting to freedom of religion.  If it weren&#039;t Scientology it would be some other religion, or any movement that offers some glimmer of hope toward a betterment of mankind.  My glass is half full.  It is a lovely day with light breeze and scattered clouds, with fresh air and bountiful sunshine.  We&#039;ve a good planet here and a free internet.  But if enough people really, really insist on violating copyright law, then lawmakers will be forced to make more laws about internet use.  We already have recorded IPs, in extreme cases the FBI can demand all of an internet site&#039;s records.  Please don&#039;t make the internet less free by continually violating copyright law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m somewhat amused by the psychiatrists and Big Pharma employees whom post here, beating their gums, spreading rumor, and objecting to freedom of religion.  If it weren&#8217;t Scientology it would be some other religion, or any movement that offers some glimmer of hope toward a betterment of mankind.  My glass is half full.  It is a lovely day with light breeze and scattered clouds, with fresh air and bountiful sunshine.  We&#8217;ve a good planet here and a free internet.  But if enough people really, really insist on violating copyright law, then lawmakers will be forced to make more laws about internet use.  We already have recorded IPs, in extreme cases the FBI can demand all of an internet site&#8217;s records.  Please don&#8217;t make the internet less free by continually violating copyright law.</p>
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		<title>By: Run-DMS</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/07/wikileaksorg-tells-church-of-scientology-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-35336</link>
		<dc:creator>Run-DMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s put this succinctly: Scientologists&#039; claims that Fair Game is a myth or lie are just as ridiculous as their claims that the Xenu story is a lie or has no place in the faith.

There is overwhelming evidence of Fair Game, including a memo by LRH and numerous documented incidents of Fair Game in practice.

Anton @ 51, you&#039;re either a liar or completely ignorant of the facts. Get informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s put this succinctly: Scientologists&#8217; claims that Fair Game is a myth or lie are just as ridiculous as their claims that the Xenu story is a lie or has no place in the faith.</p>
<p>There is overwhelming evidence of Fair Game, including a memo by LRH and numerous documented incidents of Fair Game in practice.</p>
<p>Anton @ 51, you&#8217;re either a liar or completely ignorant of the facts. Get informed.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/07/wikileaksorg-tells-church-of-scientology-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-35332</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing to add to further the point that &quot;Fair Game&quot; is not in fact a rumor. Here&#039;s a court case where the CoS argued that it should be allowable as part of their &quot;religion&quot;

http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/wollersheim.htm

Ya, ya, I know scientologists will say Lermanet is a bunch of lies so Scientologists, feel free to go look up the public records on this one:

LARRY WOLLERSHEIM, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF
CALIFORNIA, Defendant and Appellant
No. B023193

Court of Appeals of California, Second Appellate District, Division Seven

212 Cal.App.3d 872, 260 Cal.Rptr. 331

212 Cal.App.3d at 877:

Also of note, these arguments of &quot;Fair Game&quot; being a religious tenet were made long AFTER the CoS supposedly repealed the practice. (In fact they only stopped calling it Fair Game)

So tell me scientologists, how exactly is &quot;Fair Game&quot; a myth &amp; rumor when your own lawyers argued that it is a religious tenet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing to add to further the point that &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; is not in fact a rumor. Here&#8217;s a court case where the CoS argued that it should be allowable as part of their &#8220;religion&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/wollersheim.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/wollersheim.htm</a></p>
<p>Ya, ya, I know scientologists will say Lermanet is a bunch of lies so Scientologists, feel free to go look up the public records on this one:</p>
<p>LARRY WOLLERSHEIM, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF<br />
CALIFORNIA, Defendant and Appellant<br />
No. B023193</p>
<p>Court of Appeals of California, Second Appellate District, Division Seven</p>
<p>212 Cal.App.3d 872, 260 Cal.Rptr. 331</p>
<p>212 Cal.App.3d at 877:</p>
<p>Also of note, these arguments of &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; being a religious tenet were made long AFTER the CoS supposedly repealed the practice. (In fact they only stopped calling it Fair Game)</p>
<p>So tell me scientologists, how exactly is &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; a myth &amp; rumor when your own lawyers argued that it is a religious tenet?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/07/wikileaksorg-tells-church-of-scientology-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-35327</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From #51: &quot;The fair game lie was given life by LMT people, like Prince, Brooks, Minton, Tory. 

Theyâ€™ve been proven in court to be liars and discredited but you are still spreading their rumors.&quot;

Actually, the policies of the Church that people refer to as &quot;Fair Game&quot; have been proven or at least backed up with a decent amount of circumstancial evidence. Whether or not Scientology refers to those actions as &quot;Fair Game&quot; is a different story but lets look at what&#039;s going on.

Scientologist filed a false police report against Sean saying he threatened to kill him. Video evidence proves that claim was false.

Tommy Gorman has had his tires slashed and a white van follow him and park outside his house. There&#039;s video proof of that.

Scientology lawyers are sending letters to the parents of adult protesters in an attempt to defame/slander the protester to their own parents. I understand &quot;warning&quot; (that&#039;s what you guys are calling it) the parents of minors, but the CoS has no right violating the privacy of adults.

There are videos and pictures of PI&#039;s hired by the CoS sitting outside of people&#039;s houses.

The fake bomb threat that scientology claims anonymous released (and anonymous contends scientology did to themselves) has a few pieces of interesting circumstancial evidence to help support anonymous&#039;s claims. First, on the DVD sent to protesters families the video appears in higher resolution then those ripped from YouTube (where the video was posted) this couldn&#039;t happen without access to the original. Also, The Commlink website ( http://thecommline.com ) uses the exact same image in the header as found in the video meaning scientology had that picture on file prior to the &quot;threat&quot; being released. Is it enough to get a court conviction? Probably not, but backed up with previous events like Op. Freakout and claiming the BBC (the British Government run TV station) sent scientology bomb threats it&#039;s enough to get people thinking.

So Anonymous are not reciting a rumor based on anything the LMT might have said. We are backing up our claims with proof, and evidence of critics being harassed.

Also, it&#039;s been proven that the CoS has lied to people before too. So lets not go down the road of 1 lie means you always lie. I told my mom I didn&#039;t eat the cookies when I was 6 (I totally did) that doesn&#039;t mean I lie in every aspect of my life.

PS: If people never change and always act the same (liars always lie as you stated), those criminals you let into Scientology via Crimonon &amp; Narconon are totally going to steal all your stuff and use it to buy drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From #51: &#8220;The fair game lie was given life by LMT people, like Prince, Brooks, Minton, Tory. </p>
<p>Theyâ€™ve been proven in court to be liars and discredited but you are still spreading their rumors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, the policies of the Church that people refer to as &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; have been proven or at least backed up with a decent amount of circumstancial evidence. Whether or not Scientology refers to those actions as &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; is a different story but lets look at what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Scientologist filed a false police report against Sean saying he threatened to kill him. Video evidence proves that claim was false.</p>
<p>Tommy Gorman has had his tires slashed and a white van follow him and park outside his house. There&#8217;s video proof of that.</p>
<p>Scientology lawyers are sending letters to the parents of adult protesters in an attempt to defame/slander the protester to their own parents. I understand &#8220;warning&#8221; (that&#8217;s what you guys are calling it) the parents of minors, but the CoS has no right violating the privacy of adults.</p>
<p>There are videos and pictures of PI&#8217;s hired by the CoS sitting outside of people&#8217;s houses.</p>
<p>The fake bomb threat that scientology claims anonymous released (and anonymous contends scientology did to themselves) has a few pieces of interesting circumstancial evidence to help support anonymous&#8217;s claims. First, on the DVD sent to protesters families the video appears in higher resolution then those ripped from YouTube (where the video was posted) this couldn&#8217;t happen without access to the original. Also, The Commlink website ( <a href="http://thecommline.com" rel="nofollow">http://thecommline.com</a> ) uses the exact same image in the header as found in the video meaning scientology had that picture on file prior to the &#8220;threat&#8221; being released. Is it enough to get a court conviction? Probably not, but backed up with previous events like Op. Freakout and claiming the BBC (the British Government run TV station) sent scientology bomb threats it&#8217;s enough to get people thinking.</p>
<p>So Anonymous are not reciting a rumor based on anything the LMT might have said. We are backing up our claims with proof, and evidence of critics being harassed.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s been proven that the CoS has lied to people before too. So lets not go down the road of 1 lie means you always lie. I told my mom I didn&#8217;t eat the cookies when I was 6 (I totally did) that doesn&#8217;t mean I lie in every aspect of my life.</p>
<p>PS: If people never change and always act the same (liars always lie as you stated), those criminals you let into Scientology via Crimonon &amp; Narconon are totally going to steal all your stuff and use it to buy drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dio Brando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dio Brando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[...]at least on Earth here, you get to think any thought you want and no one can do a thing about it.&lt;/i&gt;

And yet, you(more specifically, your religion) wants to prevent people from thinking as they wish. Or are you personally exempt from doing Audits?

&lt;i&gt;When it comes to ideas, no one actually owns any idea because we can all think whatever we choose.&lt;/i&gt;

We own our own thoughts. And no one else has the right to override that entirely.

&lt;i&gt;The idea is not copyrighted, the symbols that represent the idea is copyrighted.&lt;/i&gt;

Not an idea. A plot. A story. The vessel.

&lt;i&gt;But youâ€™ll find Scientology texts, at least the basic ones, in many public libraries.&lt;/i&gt;

Why only the basic ones? Why is all of the knowledge not free? Why hide so much? What do you feel you need to hide, eh? What are you hiding? Why is so much of the Church hidden from view? Why is no one allowed to practice all LRH tech without being in Scientology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[...]at least on Earth here, you get to think any thought you want and no one can do a thing about it.</i></p>
<p>And yet, you(more specifically, your religion) wants to prevent people from thinking as they wish. Or are you personally exempt from doing Audits?</p>
<p><i>When it comes to ideas, no one actually owns any idea because we can all think whatever we choose.</i></p>
<p>We own our own thoughts. And no one else has the right to override that entirely.</p>
<p><i>The idea is not copyrighted, the symbols that represent the idea is copyrighted.</i></p>
<p>Not an idea. A plot. A story. The vessel.</p>
<p><i>But youâ€™ll find Scientology texts, at least the basic ones, in many public libraries.</i></p>
<p>Why only the basic ones? Why is all of the knowledge not free? Why hide so much? What do you feel you need to hide, eh? What are you hiding? Why is so much of the Church hidden from view? Why is no one allowed to practice all LRH tech without being in Scientology?</p>
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