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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-39000</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K, nobody&#039;s going to ask you to ignore your personal opinions just because a truce was reached. Nobody has the right to tell you what to believe or how to go about doing it. Dawn, there really is a giant problem when dealing with memes and Anonymous, since these isn&#039;t just one single group that can be classified with that term. There are loads of different versions, with their own standards on what is and isn&#039;t Anonymous&#039; way of going about things. The fact that you attempt to separate them and understand them individually proves that you really do care about what&#039;s going on and I&#039;m sure nobody is going to fault you for that.

The main problem here is that the people who decided to shoot off at you are most likely the original Anonymous, the previously mentioned &quot;oldfags&quot;. These are the Anonymous that went after Alex Wuori, the ones that took down multiple people for their own enjoyment. That&#039;s not us, obviously. As to the icanhascheezburger point, yeah, I can personally see it as annoying. I can also see how other people would want to keep it away from infecting their personal social mores, though not to the point of harassment and being belligerent towards you. Those anons can gb2gaia and have fin buying new clothes and looking soooooooo kawaii lol ^_^. You just have to keep on doing what you&#039;ve been doing from the beginning of this, keep looking to the truth of the matter and reporting what you see as the truth, until you no longer want to keep up with it.

As to my personal opinion of what has been going on, the people that originally posted... are correct. /b/ and /i/ don&#039;t care who you are or what you do, and that isn&#039;t just my opinion. I&#039;ve seen them go after people for less crap, and even though you do have the right to post Catnarok up there, I agree that you should play it safe and not have to worry about anyone going nuts. I appreciate what you&#039;ve been doing with your coverage of Anonymous vs. The Co$, but like I said, I want you to be safe.

My final point is, Dawn, we really do appreciate what you&#039;re doing here. You don&#039;t have to cover any of this, and you&#039;re the only one that I&#039;ve seen who has covered the protests consecutively. You take an active role in trying to understand what&#039;s going on and don&#039;t take sides lightly. You&#039;ve been going through your own research on this, something we encourage everybody to do, and I have nothing but respect towards you for that. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K, nobody&#8217;s going to ask you to ignore your personal opinions just because a truce was reached. Nobody has the right to tell you what to believe or how to go about doing it. Dawn, there really is a giant problem when dealing with memes and Anonymous, since these isn&#8217;t just one single group that can be classified with that term. There are loads of different versions, with their own standards on what is and isn&#8217;t Anonymous&#8217; way of going about things. The fact that you attempt to separate them and understand them individually proves that you really do care about what&#8217;s going on and I&#8217;m sure nobody is going to fault you for that.</p>
<p>The main problem here is that the people who decided to shoot off at you are most likely the original Anonymous, the previously mentioned &#8220;oldfags&#8221;. These are the Anonymous that went after Alex Wuori, the ones that took down multiple people for their own enjoyment. That&#8217;s not us, obviously. As to the icanhascheezburger point, yeah, I can personally see it as annoying. I can also see how other people would want to keep it away from infecting their personal social mores, though not to the point of harassment and being belligerent towards you. Those anons can gb2gaia and have fin buying new clothes and looking soooooooo kawaii lol ^_^. You just have to keep on doing what you&#8217;ve been doing from the beginning of this, keep looking to the truth of the matter and reporting what you see as the truth, until you no longer want to keep up with it.</p>
<p>As to my personal opinion of what has been going on, the people that originally posted&#8230; are correct. /b/ and /i/ don&#8217;t care who you are or what you do, and that isn&#8217;t just my opinion. I&#8217;ve seen them go after people for less crap, and even though you do have the right to post Catnarok up there, I agree that you should play it safe and not have to worry about anyone going nuts. I appreciate what you&#8217;ve been doing with your coverage of Anonymous vs. The Co$, but like I said, I want you to be safe.</p>
<p>My final point is, Dawn, we really do appreciate what you&#8217;re doing here. You don&#8217;t have to cover any of this, and you&#8217;re the only one that I&#8217;ve seen who has covered the protests consecutively. You take an active role in trying to understand what&#8217;s going on and don&#8217;t take sides lightly. You&#8217;ve been going through your own research on this, something we encourage everybody to do, and I have nothing but respect towards you for that. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-38801</link>
		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand by what I said but out of respect for Dawn&#039;s wishes I won&#039;t say any more.</description>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-38767</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At enturb, a truce has been reached, really, where one was not needed.  I made a mistake, and I apologized.  I probably shouldn&#039;t have cried like a baby, but hey, I am human, my weee wittle feelings were hurt.  I fully understand and appreciate what the problem was, and I genuinely feel bad.  We all have egos and pride and no one wants to see their culture either made fun of, monetized or adopted by people who don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;.  I am still doing the showcasing, it won&#039;t be a contest, but it will be open to anyone who is interested.

Most of the people who read our site aren&#039;t the 4Chan folks anyway, so why single them out.  The post was meant as a way of reaching out to Anonymous in a respectful way which was clearly not thought out.  I am not perfect, so there you go.

I would like VERY much to move past this incident.  Many people have emailed me and I get it.  Most were very nice.  I completely overreacted to a handful of people who were outraged. 

So, that&#039;s where we are.  Any further comments that aren&#039;t related to the video concept are just not helpful.  

Thanks to all who were supportive, and my apologies once more for overreacting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At enturb, a truce has been reached, really, where one was not needed.  I made a mistake, and I apologized.  I probably shouldn&#8217;t have cried like a baby, but hey, I am human, my weee wittle feelings were hurt.  I fully understand and appreciate what the problem was, and I genuinely feel bad.  We all have egos and pride and no one wants to see their culture either made fun of, monetized or adopted by people who don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;.  I am still doing the showcasing, it won&#8217;t be a contest, but it will be open to anyone who is interested.</p>
<p>Most of the people who read our site aren&#8217;t the 4Chan folks anyway, so why single them out.  The post was meant as a way of reaching out to Anonymous in a respectful way which was clearly not thought out.  I am not perfect, so there you go.</p>
<p>I would like VERY much to move past this incident.  Many people have emailed me and I get it.  Most were very nice.  I completely overreacted to a handful of people who were outraged. </p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s where we are.  Any further comments that aren&#8217;t related to the video concept are just not helpful.  </p>
<p>Thanks to all who were supportive, and my apologies once more for overreacting.</p>
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		<title>By: anÃ³nimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>anÃ³nimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, donÂ´t make this silliness bigger than it actually is. Yes, it could have escalated, and it would not be a good thing to see, but bit didn&#039;t and it will not make anon implode and it will not make chanology anons attack their most precious and helpful allies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, donÂ´t make this silliness bigger than it actually is. Yes, it could have escalated, and it would not be a good thing to see, but bit didn&#8217;t and it will not make anon implode and it will not make chanology anons attack their most precious and helpful allies.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-38735</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D and K, don&#039;t get worked up about the cats thing. It&#039;s taken down and gone and shouldn&#039;t have even been acknowledged. Don&#039;t get trolled because if you show that you will get trolled and go all drama-bomb then you&#039;re going to get trolled more. It&#039;s kind of what we do.

Re: The ICHC thing, it&#039;s important to understand that not only did they take parts of Anon culture and mis-represent them as their own. They also decided to go, &quot;Oh, hay, let&#039;s not only steal these pics from Anonymous, we&#039;ll also make approx. $6,000 per month in advertising revenue for doing absolutely nothing!&quot; The argument can be made, &quot;Oh, well the author should sue.&quot; But that&#039;s not how we roll. $cientology stalks people, lies, and litigates, not Anonymous. Doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t going to get angry about it though.

And contest idea is a good idea. I&#039;ll be throwing something together for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D and K, don&#8217;t get worked up about the cats thing. It&#8217;s taken down and gone and shouldn&#8217;t have even been acknowledged. Don&#8217;t get trolled because if you show that you will get trolled and go all drama-bomb then you&#8217;re going to get trolled more. It&#8217;s kind of what we do.</p>
<p>Re: The ICHC thing, it&#8217;s important to understand that not only did they take parts of Anon culture and mis-represent them as their own. They also decided to go, &#8220;Oh, hay, let&#8217;s not only steal these pics from Anonymous, we&#8217;ll also make approx. $6,000 per month in advertising revenue for doing absolutely nothing!&#8221; The argument can be made, &#8220;Oh, well the author should sue.&#8221; But that&#8217;s not how we roll. $cientology stalks people, lies, and litigates, not Anonymous. Doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t going to get angry about it though.</p>
<p>And contest idea is a good idea. I&#8217;ll be throwing something together for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-38722</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terryeo--if the peaceful protests are considered a joke, why stalk anons with PIs, kill cats, and otherwise gaslight them?


I know dear old LRon HATED jokers (cause for &quot;lowered conditions&quot; and other punitive measures) but c&#039;mon, do your e-toys electronically lobotomize your sense of humor out en masse?


I would postulate that the CoS, for not getting the joke being played on it by Anonymous (and life in general, but lets stay focused for the moment), is the one acting without comprehending. They think they have all the answers. Guess what: LRon never wrote word one about the internet and instant information dissemination. He never dreamt of the vaguest possibility of something like Anonymous in the most incoherent ravings he called his scifi authorings. At best, LRH tech could handle the 1950s-1970s. And thinks took a sharp hit at the end of the 70s if I recall a certain Snow White incident.


Oh, and don&#039;t mess with football.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terryeo&#8211;if the peaceful protests are considered a joke, why stalk anons with PIs, kill cats, and otherwise gaslight them?</p>
<p>I know dear old LRon HATED jokers (cause for &#8220;lowered conditions&#8221; and other punitive measures) but c&#8217;mon, do your e-toys electronically lobotomize your sense of humor out en masse?</p>
<p>I would postulate that the CoS, for not getting the joke being played on it by Anonymous (and life in general, but lets stay focused for the moment), is the one acting without comprehending. They think they have all the answers. Guess what: LRon never wrote word one about the internet and instant information dissemination. He never dreamt of the vaguest possibility of something like Anonymous in the most incoherent ravings he called his scifi authorings. At best, LRH tech could handle the 1950s-1970s. And thinks took a sharp hit at the end of the 70s if I recall a certain Snow White incident.</p>
<p>Oh, and don&#8217;t mess with football.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-38721</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi D!  Great coverage of the $cieno-deal, the harassment needs to be  made public!  While I appreciate your intent with the &quot;prize-winning video&quot; thing.  I have to express my concern with making light of a very serious movement here.  This is not a game to alot of us, we have lost sister&#039;s and brother&#039;s, parent&#039;s and friends to an awful beast that is Scientology.--- We, that are in the mental health fields and treat patients and struggle to &quot;deprogram&quot; and treat the paranoia that is mostly due to the honest-to-goodness STALKING from the  scientologists. Know first hand, this is NOT about winning prizes or making a game show out of creating public awareness. The most creative prize should go to DEAD founder, LRH for coming up with this shit and convincing an entire generation of people it had actual validity!  Anonymous should STAY anonymous/ do not pass go / do not collect free CD&#039;s---someone will have to claim them, or send them---leaving the flap open for discovery of our identities.  We can only stay powerful when we stay ANONYMOUS!!! Our strength is mystery.....we have PHD.&#039;s; MD&#039;s Law degrees, government officials, senators, teachers, hackers, artists, bartenders, FROM ALL WALKS of life!  I am afraid this will deter from the ultimate goal here....which is to EXPOSE the $$$$$$cieno&#039;s for all they are......money$$$$$$$ hungry, power players that have fucked with the general stupid public long enough.  Let&#039;s get this shit on The NY POST, Washington PosT, NY TIMES.......REPORT_REPORT&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;No fucking game show please D-----It mocks what we are here for, it&#039;s serious.  When your loved one dies penniless and loyal to that beast, you wouldnt feel like playing games either.  While it is a creative concept, it is hard to feel genuine exploiting something the WRONG WAY!--(HAHAH, funny look at the scienos running) while taping to  struggle to get the vid in the contest.---NO CONTEST, PLEASE D, it is a bad idea, and will seriously deflect the REAL issues here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi D!  Great coverage of the $cieno-deal, the harassment needs to be  made public!  While I appreciate your intent with the &#8220;prize-winning video&#8221; thing.  I have to express my concern with making light of a very serious movement here.  This is not a game to alot of us, we have lost sister&#8217;s and brother&#8217;s, parent&#8217;s and friends to an awful beast that is Scientology.&#8212; We, that are in the mental health fields and treat patients and struggle to &#8220;deprogram&#8221; and treat the paranoia that is mostly due to the honest-to-goodness STALKING from the  scientologists. Know first hand, this is NOT about winning prizes or making a game show out of creating public awareness. The most creative prize should go to DEAD founder, LRH for coming up with this shit and convincing an entire generation of people it had actual validity!  Anonymous should STAY anonymous/ do not pass go / do not collect free CD&#8217;s&#8212;someone will have to claim them, or send them&#8212;leaving the flap open for discovery of our identities.  We can only stay powerful when we stay ANONYMOUS!!! Our strength is mystery&#8230;..we have PHD.&#8217;s; MD&#8217;s Law degrees, government officials, senators, teachers, hackers, artists, bartenders, FROM ALL WALKS of life!  I am afraid this will deter from the ultimate goal here&#8230;.which is to EXPOSE the $$$$$$cieno&#8217;s for all they are&#8230;&#8230;money$$$$$$$ hungry, power players that have fucked with the general stupid public long enough.  Let&#8217;s get this shit on The NY POST, Washington PosT, NY TIMES&#8230;&#8230;.REPORT_REPORT&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;No fucking game show please D&#8212;&#8211;It mocks what we are here for, it&#8217;s serious.  When your loved one dies penniless and loyal to that beast, you wouldnt feel like playing games either.  While it is a creative concept, it is hard to feel genuine exploiting something the WRONG WAY!&#8211;(HAHAH, funny look at the scienos running) while taping to  struggle to get the vid in the contest.&#8212;NO CONTEST, PLEASE D, it is a bad idea, and will seriously deflect the REAL issues here!</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/04/22/anonymous-what-are-your-talents/comment-page-2/#comment-38718</link>
		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let me put it another way.

Would any of you ever see Arnie Lerma, or Andreas Heldal-Lund, or the family of Lisa McPherson, attacking over cat macros and whether or not somebody stoled their meme?

unimportant crap is unimportant
focus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let me put it another way.</p>
<p>Would any of you ever see Arnie Lerma, or Andreas Heldal-Lund, or the family of Lisa McPherson, attacking over cat macros and whether or not somebody stoled their meme?</p>
<p>unimportant crap is unimportant<br />
focus</p>
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		<title>By: bgodley</title>
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		<dc:creator>bgodley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.
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Frosted butts.
7.
2.
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Sage.

I lol&#039;d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.<br />
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Frosted butts.<br />
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Sage.</p>
<p>I lol&#8217;d</p>
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		<title>By: Beeryeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beeryeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha ha jokes on you. I have gone to the firdge and drank there EXCELLENT beers and a s a result I am even BETTEr prepared to ma ke my point aboput knowledge and uderstanding.

You see there is knoledge and there is understanindg. There is a big fdiffernece and the difference is that if you KNWOELEDGE something than you KNOW it whereis if you only UNDERDSTAND

Let me try that again becase I think some of you lost me. CRITICS don&#039;t have knowledge. CRITICS only have understanding. wait no. switch those two. critics cannot possibely have understanding becase then they wuld contradi- contracid- counterindicate LRH who has under5satnding. Get it? either critics understand or LRH understands and it&#039;s gotta be LRH! get it? if you ungerstand lrh tecnology than you have POWER, like the power I have to drink more these beers he he he.

so that that&#039;s that. by the power vested in me by these cold ones i now prnounce critics to lack all understanding ha haha ha oh god i just spilled on the keyboard. wait ther i get a towle

see

see

oh god room stop spinnin

I AM USIGN TONE 40 ROOM

I COMNAND YOU STOP SPINIONG

okay much better. got more bbeeers on way back with towel. hat&#039;s a good example of knowledge ves. understanding. if you only K NOW you only get the twoel. if you UNDERSTAND you get a beer WHILE your getting up for thw twoel. cause you&#039;e getting up anhyway.

so here is a PLAIN FACT  criics don&#039;t have the POWER that Scentiologists have. just plain basic fact. see you dn&#039;t even have to take my word for it. you know it. i can use my OT poweers to see you all at yiur keyboards. you&#039;re all amzaed at how right i am. GOD HEs BHRILLIANT you&#039;re all saying. but youre too GELLIS. you say i WANT the POEWR hes got but i CANT ADMIT i was so WROOONG so WROOOOOOOONG so WROOOOOOOOONGG so you hive to pritensd that Im not as BRIIIIIIIIIIILEANT as a I KNOW i am. 

finsal score at t he end of th nighth. critiks zero. Sceintology ONEHUNDERD MIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLEEOOOOOOOOOON or evn more relistikly IIIIIINFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIINTTTTTTTYY. sorry for yo toolls of the psyhik conpsiracy but you ar ZEEEEEEEERROOOOOOO. just the way it is. cold hard sober fct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha ha jokes on you. I have gone to the firdge and drank there EXCELLENT beers and a s a result I am even BETTEr prepared to ma ke my point aboput knowledge and uderstanding.</p>
<p>You see there is knoledge and there is understanindg. There is a big fdiffernece and the difference is that if you KNWOELEDGE something than you KNOW it whereis if you only UNDERDSTAND</p>
<p>Let me try that again becase I think some of you lost me. CRITICS don&#8217;t have knowledge. CRITICS only have understanding. wait no. switch those two. critics cannot possibely have understanding becase then they wuld contradi- contracid- counterindicate LRH who has under5satnding. Get it? either critics understand or LRH understands and it&#8217;s gotta be LRH! get it? if you ungerstand lrh tecnology than you have POWER, like the power I have to drink more these beers he he he.</p>
<p>so that that&#8217;s that. by the power vested in me by these cold ones i now prnounce critics to lack all understanding ha haha ha oh god i just spilled on the keyboard. wait ther i get a towle</p>
<p>see</p>
<p>see</p>
<p>oh god room stop spinnin</p>
<p>I AM USIGN TONE 40 ROOM</p>
<p>I COMNAND YOU STOP SPINIONG</p>
<p>okay much better. got more bbeeers on way back with towel. hat&#8217;s a good example of knowledge ves. understanding. if you only K NOW you only get the twoel. if you UNDERSTAND you get a beer WHILE your getting up for thw twoel. cause you&#8217;e getting up anhyway.</p>
<p>so here is a PLAIN FACT  criics don&#8217;t have the POWER that Scentiologists have. just plain basic fact. see you dn&#8217;t even have to take my word for it. you know it. i can use my OT poweers to see you all at yiur keyboards. you&#8217;re all amzaed at how right i am. GOD HEs BHRILLIANT you&#8217;re all saying. but youre too GELLIS. you say i WANT the POEWR hes got but i CANT ADMIT i was so WROOONG so WROOOOOOOONG so WROOOOOOOOONGG so you hive to pritensd that Im not as BRIIIIIIIIIIILEANT as a I KNOW i am. </p>
<p>finsal score at t he end of th nighth. critiks zero. Sceintology ONEHUNDERD MIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLEEOOOOOOOOOON or evn more relistikly IIIIIINFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIINTTTTTTTYY. sorry for yo toolls of the psyhik conpsiracy but you ar ZEEEEEEEERROOOOOOO. just the way it is. cold hard sober fct.</p>
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