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04/28/2008 (2:51 pm)

More Details Of Sadism From Scientology Church Leader David Miscavige

Church of Scientology’s Gold Base, Miscavige’s Home Away From Home

In an earlier post about Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige, we focused on his violent and abusive history of beating staff members who upset him. For years, Miscavige’s unpredictable temper was rumored to explode in unhinged outbursts which resulted in him slapping and punching his over-worked and disturbingly underpaid staff, commissioned as Sea Organization members.

The Sea Org is described by Scientology insiders, as an elite and dedicated group which have their own slogan: “Many Are Called, Few Are Chosen.” A pseudo-military outfit, so select is this group, and so distinctive is this “honor,” they must sign a billion-year contract which states their allegiance to the Church of Scientology and the Sea Org are bound beyond death. Scientologists believe we live millions of lives and keep coming back after a person “drops their body.” Sort of like a perverse non-negotiable reincarnation, but without the becoming enlightened part.

These members work well over 60 hours a week, and according to Marc Headley, a former member of Scientology (and of the Sea Org) they are paid approximately $46 dollars a week, which he calculated to be only a few cents more an hour than Chinese slave labor workers. Marc’s interview, on our BlogTalkRadio show (listened to be over 3500 people so far) is so powerful and explosive we are releasing it in parts, and members of the online activist group Anonymous worked diligently on helping Glosslip get this interview transcribed. Below is part three of this interview with 15-year Sea Org/Scientology veteran Marc Headley:

DO: It’s disturbing, you and I talked about the Jenna Miscavige ‘Nightline’ interview which is pretty powerful. I know sure, it’s unfortunately only half an hour, but I think they covered some of the major talking points. The forced abortions and the child labor practices within the church. Those are some pretty sensational claims and you read about them on the internet, you’ve heard about them from ex-scientologists, and now you have a major media site essentially validating it by presenting it for public consumption.

So I’m hoping that more of these stories that we hear are being treated in the light that they are
given, and that is â€œThis is truth, this is reality, this is what has happened to these people, and it’s
very sad, it’s damagingâ€. You seem like one of the more stable ex-scientologists. I’m not sure if it’s
your upbringing or just your nature, but having talked to you a few times now you really seem to
understand what you went through and have been able to move forward. That’s good to see, because
people inside need to know that there’s hope when they leave to the outside. We want to help
people, I know you do, you have family members in there. I want to stay on the David Miscavige
thing because I think it’s very fascinating. This is the leader of the Church of Scientology, this is the
man who represents the state of this spiritual organization which says they are going to clear the
planet and make everything better for mankind.

Yet obviously we’ve just heard your story, you’ve seen several people physically abused by
David Miscavige, we know Jeff’s story, and you yourself were abused. Now there’s and interesting
story about David Miscavige throwing people overboard? This is all just so confusing to me. Can
you tell us a little more about that particular story?

MH: L Ron Hubbard actually formed the Sea Org on ships, on sea vessels and when people, students or staff, would do something that was against his teaching, then he would throw them overboard. This was when they were at dock or in port or something, they would be thrown over the side of the ship as a punishment. Obviously the Sea Org is no longer a sea based organization, they have moved to land.

At the Int Base there is a large lake that is very close to the manufacturing building. If you look on
Google Earth you’ll see it in a second, but there’s a little bridge that leads out to a little island. In the
’90s Dave re-instituted being thrown overboard. So if somebody was late to report to post or they
had done something they weren’t supposed to … basically it was a way of punishing people. And
you would literally get walked out to the lake, you were allowed to take off your shoes, and I think
your tie, we were wearing at the time button-down dress shirts and tie, so you were allowed to take
off your shoes and your tie, and then they read like a little passage, something like â€œMay your sins
be thrown into the waterâ€, and then they’d push you into the water.

This lake by the way was filled with dead birds, fish, mold, and it never got cleaned or anything. People started to get sick after they’d been thrown into the lake so they had to cancel it.

Okay, now fast-forward to 2004, all of a sudden in the middle of the night, like 4 AM, hundreds of people are called in, you’d need to report to the base right away. Buses were sent out to pick people up from their housing, everybody showed up. David Miscavige was there, wearing his nighttime pajamas, walking around, waiting for everybody to show up.

He explained that this guy, he was the C.O.C. of International, Mark Yager, was living with another executive in Fairmount who was named Guillaume Lesevre, the Executive Director International. Every day when Dave would have meetings with these two guys, he would tease them and torment them about how they were gay and because they lived together he knew they were up to stuff. This went on for months, and he would always tease them.

Well this night when we got pulled in, Mark Yager had decided that he wasn’t going to take it anymore, he had dragged his mattress out of his room, halfway across the property, and put it in basically just a field of dirt and decided he was going to sleep there. Dave walks by his room that night, he saw that he was gone and the mattress was gone, and then that’s when he ordered “Okay, somebody go find Mark Yager and call everybody back in”. After he explained this whole thing to us, he said that it was our fault that Mark Yager wouldn’t sleep in the room he was assigned and that we were all going overboard.

And a hundred people were thrown, because we couldn’t go into the lake anymore, we thrown
into this swimming pool that’s at the property, it’s called the Star of California. It’s like a ship that’s
built into the hill and has a huge swimming pool. We all, one by one, had to just walk off the diving
board into the pool, like walking the plank. Those are the kind of things, like being woken at 4 am,
being dragged in, being thrown into the pool, and then being told “You guys are useless and you
can’t get anything right” and then … â€œGo homeâ€. Incidents like that were regular occurrences at the
Int Base.

DO: It’s sick, but worse, that it’s being done by a church that says they’re a religion, that gets tax-exempt status. That presents themselves as the alternative to psychiatry, that they are going to help us all and all of mankind. You’re right, this is really sick.

MH: There’s a story on the internet, if you Google â€œmusical chairs int baseâ€ there’s a tear-jerking story of something that Dave put several hundred staff through, threatening to split them up from their spouses. It’s too long of a story to tell right now but somebody did write it up and it is on the internet. It’s insane, but even during that time people were made, as punishment, to sleep under their desks for weeks on end until certain achievements or milestones were met.

Until those were met, you went to sleep under your desk, then you got up in the morning, you went
to take a shower in the garage of the estate facility there, and you never went home. And if your
wife was in a different area of the church, then you didn’t see her, because you were sleeping under
your desk and that’s just the way it was. Sometimes he would even forget that he had ordered people
that they were restricted to the property and couldn’t go home. And months later someone would
say “Well, I’m not going home anyway” and he would go “Why not?” and it’d be like “Sir, we’ve
been restricted to the base for three months now”. And he would be like “Oh. That was only meant for a day or two”, and this is like four months later.

In 1990, when I arrived at Golden Era Productions, there were 1200 staff that worked at that
facility. It was a sprawling complex, it’s actually over 500 acres. There’s several International
Management Organizations that exist there. It’s also where Religious Technology Center is located,
which is the organization that Dave Miscavige is the chairman of the board of, and about four or
five other church organizations that are housed there. As of 2007, there was about 400 people left
that worked at that facility. And those 400 people are still demanded to do the work of the 1200
people that were there in the early ’90s.

In the next installment of our interview with Marc, we will continue this story and discuss how David Miscavige disparaged current 2nd-in-command Scientology superstar, actor Tom Cruise when he left the Church in the 90’s, plus how David instituted a rule stating, all Sea Org members were to refer to Tom Cruise as “Sir” and were told not to speak directly to him, or look him in the eye.

Yes, Scientology. It’s far, far worse than you think.

Posted by D
Filed under: David Miscavige, Marc Headley, Scientology

20 Comments »

Thanks Dawn.
That Marc Headly interview was stunning and it is great that you are doing these series of articles and transcripts. They show up nicely on googlenews (which will no doubt be causing brown enturbulation in little Davey’s underoos :)).

Comment by Sponge — April 28, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Hi, I’m Terry Olsen (Terryeo to those of you who know me on the boardz) and I definitely approve the above story.

Comment by Terryeo — April 28, 2008 @ 3:53 pm

Great read. Just when you think you know how bad it is inside of the CO$, you learn something even worse. Very much looking forward to the future installments.

Entheta=Truth

Comment by M. Kipp — April 28, 2008 @ 4:10 pm

What drivel.

Comment by Terryeo [another one] — April 28, 2008 @ 4:19 pm

Terryeo. First off, I love you, truly, madly deeply.

Second, I am going to take a stab and say, you weren’t in the Sea Org right? Since you weren’t you have no idea of the abuse which was inflicted on these people, therefore you opinion on THIS matter has no bearing.

That said, love you. Hugs and kisses.

Comment by D — April 28, 2008 @ 4:25 pm

What’s with the battle of the Terryeos lately? (terryeos sound like some kinda moist towelette) But seriously Dawn, outstanding journalism, great interview and more glossy enturbulation. Keep up the good work. I can’t wait to hear more from the courageous Mr. Headly.

Comment by Artoo45 — April 28, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

What’s really cruel is that scientology took over youtube this morning. Dawn, what is your comment to that?

Comment by Jeff Prettybabe — April 28, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

Hi, Iâ€™m Terry Olsen (Terryeo to those of you who know me on the boardz) and I definitely do not approve the above story.

Comment by Terry Olsen — April 28, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

Great interview, Dawn. Marc’s story packed a helluva punch. I’m really looking forward to hearing your next interview with him.

If you haven’t listened to the interview: DO IT.

Comment by David Mudkips — April 28, 2008 @ 5:29 pm

The Cult is getting really desperate. They think having their own youtube channel will cover for their crimes. Sorry guys, but the truth is more powerful.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080428005714&newsLang=en

Comment by Sam — April 28, 2008 @ 5:30 pm

Can’t wait to read more, great work, Dawn, Marc and the Anonymous transcribers.

In case anyone is interested, the story that Marc refers to about the musical chair incident is detailed here: http://www.xenu-directory.net/accounts/blownforgood.html

“blownforgood” BFG has been dishing out all the crazy Scientology goings-on at Gold Base for a while now. BFG posts on the clambake message board and every post is riveting. Someone has been nice enough to collate all the posts into one easy-to-read webpage.

Oldest post is at the bottom of the page. Contents are highlighted in purple. Start down at the bottom and read your way up!

Grab your popcorn, there’s a lot of info!

Comment by HellaWeird — April 28, 2008 @ 7:22 pm

Good Work Dawn! You are becoming an expert on Scientology top ranks staff and their predicaments and current events, and believe me, that puts you in a class of your own! I hope you stick with it, as the months and years roll on. I have to comment on one thing I think others have NOT emphasized, but I feel is pretty significant. I think the polite comments official Scientology made about Jenna Miscavige, is evidence of a continued softening of the harsh combative nature of Scientology’s past history of “fair game.” With them wishing Jenna Miscavige well, they at least on the surface have changed from their past dismissive rants against their defecting former members who speak up. And finaly, one important comment made by the narrator of the Nightline Show I think really significant, is that Jenna’s parents support Jenna, which speaks volumes if you know Scientology policy. THAT is pretty significant. That means the parents, both former TOP leaders in Scientology are siding with their daughter, over siding with official Scientology, and these are not your regular parents. The dad is the brother of the leader of the Scientology movement, and the mother is a former senior executive who worked directly junior to the current leader of the Scientology movement! That these ex leaders (Ronnie and Bitty Miscavige) side with their daughter (Jenna Miscavige) and support her, in the face of all that she’s done in protesting the behavior of the Scientology movement which her uncle (David Miscavige) is the head of, this speaks MUCH! Chuck Beatty, ex staffer Scientology movement, 1975-2003, 412-260-1170, Pittsburgh, USA

Comment by Chuck Beatty — April 28, 2008 @ 7:51 pm

Hi, I’m Terreo.

No I haven’t been in the Sea Org. I’m actually OSA. I live in a fantastic world. I never do anything wrong. Of course, I’m asked to do a lot of things that don’t make sense…

Like this suitcase I put next to an org… next day, Anonymous made a bomb threat… but it was my suitcase…

Must have been an SP who did that…

Comment by terreo — April 28, 2008 @ 8:35 pm

You’re all liars. I am the real Terryeo. Quit pretending to be me!

I am NOT OSA, I am in Sea Org. I am one of the guys who had to push people into the lake. If I didn’t do it fast enough, Mischavige beat me. But I loved it because I was lucky enough to be in Sea Org.

KSW yall!

Comment by Terryeo — April 29, 2008 @ 9:50 am

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Pingback by David Miscavige, Suppressive Person « Temple of Xenu — April 29, 2008 @ 10:30 am

When I was in the Sea Org in the 70’s the type of stuff written about on these forums didn’t exist.
If anyone would in those days have dared hit me or anyone associated with me I guarantee that they would not have lived very much longer.
They would have been made somehow to have dropped their bodies.
I cannot understand how all this type of stuff happened because where we were located far from the centre of such attraction these type things did not occur.
I have only recently read on these type forums how paranoiac the late Hubbard was & the types of crazy things he had done that was not known about in our location.
I guarantee u that any abuse against my person or of those who I was then associated with would never have been tolerated & for such reason I believe these abuses in our location never appeared to have happened.
Bullies & thugs tend to pick on those who have no appetite to fight back

Comment by Moneen — April 29, 2008 @ 12:07 pm

Hello there Dawn, another good piece of work, keep it up, keep reporting, posting and helping expose the rotten underbelly of the C0$, and their current leader, David-’Psycho Dwarf SP’-Miscavige.

and please ignore/excuse the OSA trolls, they can’t think outside the box(cult).

Comment by RealityMonger — April 29, 2008 @ 12:48 pm

#16, Yes, the 70’s sound like a different world than when David Miscavige took over in the 80’s. What a sad turn around for the group.

Comment by D — April 29, 2008 @ 1:04 pm

Ted Olson here. Scientology is not a skin disease or genetic condition. Scientology shares many of the same traits as flesh-eating bacteria, but that’s not what it is either.
It is a CULT.

Comment by Ted — April 29, 2008 @ 5:10 pm