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	<title>Comments on: Update On The FreeWinds Asbestos Death Cruise, Scientology Reps Respond</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40846</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They dissemble better than an Aes Sedai. And that's creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They dissemble better than an Aes Sedai. And that&#8217;s creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: ohbuddy</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40803</link>
		<dc:creator>ohbuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 14:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES AF thats what ive been trying to my finger on for months! thats how i can alwasy tell if im reading a comment from a scientologist its the sideways answers they give not to say noone else doesn't do it but ususally people attempt to answer the question given where a scientologist beats comepletely around the bush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES AF thats what ive been trying to my finger on for months! thats how i can alwasy tell if im reading a comment from a scientologist its the sideways answers they give not to say noone else doesn&#8217;t do it but ususally people attempt to answer the question given where a scientologist beats comepletely around the bush</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40711</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's an excellent analysis AF.  They are dissemblers of the highest order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent analysis AF.  They are dissemblers of the highest order.</p>
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		<title>By: AF</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40708</link>
		<dc:creator>AF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I've put my finger on something that always creeps me out about Scilon propaganda:  it's never quite responsive to the question.  Here's how anyone normal would have answered the question:

Questioner:  Is it true that your ship is dangerous to all crew and passengers because of blue asbestos aboard?
Normal:  It certainly isn't true.  We don't know who filed the false report that resulted in the quarantine and inspection, but as soon as the inspection is finished, we will continue using the ship.

And here's the Scilons:

Questioner:  Is it true that your ship is dangerous to all crew and passengers because of blue asbestos aboard?
Scilon:  We inspect air quality pretty frequently.  We're upgrading our navigational equipment.  Our captain's a really swell guy.  And there are a lot of port officers who are really grateful for times we showed up and gave them a hand.

You start to suspect you're talking with someone who can't pick out &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; questions from the questions being asked by the voices in their heads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve put my finger on something that always creeps me out about Scilon propaganda:  it&#8217;s never quite responsive to the question.  Here&#8217;s how anyone normal would have answered the question:</p>
<p>Questioner:  Is it true that your ship is dangerous to all crew and passengers because of blue asbestos aboard?<br />
Normal:  It certainly isn&#8217;t true.  We don&#8217;t know who filed the false report that resulted in the quarantine and inspection, but as soon as the inspection is finished, we will continue using the ship.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the Scilons:</p>
<p>Questioner:  Is it true that your ship is dangerous to all crew and passengers because of blue asbestos aboard?<br />
Scilon:  We inspect air quality pretty frequently.  We&#8217;re upgrading our navigational equipment.  Our captain&#8217;s a really swell guy.  And there are a lot of port officers who are really grateful for times we showed up and gave them a hand.</p>
<p>You start to suspect you&#8217;re talking with someone who can&#8217;t pick out <i>your</i> questions from the questions being asked by the voices in their heads&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: not an attorney</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40647</link>
		<dc:creator>not an attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I predict Jerry Springer/Judge Judy lawyer ads pandering to ex-scientologists and loved ones in the very near future. 

The Manville Corporation

The Manville Corporation, formerly the Johns-Manville Corporation, with 25,000 employees and more than 50 factories and mines in the United States and Canada, filed for reorganisation and protection under the United States Bankruptcy Code in August 1982. It made front page news throughout the US because at the time it was the largest company ever to file under this legislation, and, with assets of more than $2 billion dollars (Â£1.3 billion), one of the richest companies ever to take such action. At the time it was 181st on Fortune's list of the US top 500 industrial corporations. It filed for bankruptcy because, it said, it was "overwhelmed" by 16,500 lawsuits related to the health effects of asbestos, lawsuits which were at a rate of 6,000 per year. In June 1982 record compensatory damages of $2.3 million and punitive damages of $1.5 million had been awarded to a retired boiler-maker, James Cavett, dying from asbestosis and lung cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I predict Jerry Springer/Judge Judy lawyer ads pandering to ex-scientologists and loved ones in the very near future. </p>
<p>The Manville Corporation</p>
<p>The Manville Corporation, formerly the Johns-Manville Corporation, with 25,000 employees and more than 50 factories and mines in the United States and Canada, filed for reorganisation and protection under the United States Bankruptcy Code in August 1982. It made front page news throughout the US because at the time it was the largest company ever to file under this legislation, and, with assets of more than $2 billion dollars (Â£1.3 billion), one of the richest companies ever to take such action. At the time it was 181st on Fortune&#8217;s list of the US top 500 industrial corporations. It filed for bankruptcy because, it said, it was &#8220;overwhelmed&#8221; by 16,500 lawsuits related to the health effects of asbestos, lawsuits which were at a rate of 6,000 per year. In June 1982 record compensatory damages of $2.3 million and punitive damages of $1.5 million had been awarded to a retired boiler-maker, James Cavett, dying from asbestosis and lung cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mesothelianon</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40639</link>
		<dc:creator>Mesothelianon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! With proper vitamins, drinking a gallon of vegetable oil, and touch assists, Asbestosis can be audited away! Didn't you see the CofS propaganda video about the workers at WoTC? Nothing a little towel rinsed in iodine can't fix! Book your passage today on the DeathWinds post-retrofit maiden voyage and get a coupon for a free consultaion at Cancer Centers of America. FLAG SERVICE now with 200% more cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! With proper vitamins, drinking a gallon of vegetable oil, and touch assists, Asbestosis can be audited away! Didn&#8217;t you see the CofS propaganda video about the workers at WoTC? Nothing a little towel rinsed in iodine can&#8217;t fix! Book your passage today on the DeathWinds post-retrofit maiden voyage and get a coupon for a free consultaion at Cancer Centers of America. FLAG SERVICE now with 200% more cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mudkips</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40637</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mudkips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Freewinds will be completing its refit on schedule."

Oh, really?

Karin -- you really suck at lying. Anonymous is going to make sure you get caught red-handed every time you do it.

Here's proof she's lying again:

Scientology's annual CCHR convention aboard the Freewinds was scheduled for May 8th to the 15th. See a copy of the invite here:

http;//img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cchrmay08av3ga6.jpg

Knowing that this FAILBOAT has asbestos on it and that it's going to be stuck in port for a long, long time... an enterprising member of Anonymous called the Freewind Ship Office to try to book themselves for the May 8th event.

For your listening pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgcLdJpbdRA

No, Karin... the deathtrap is not sailing on time. Your own ship office confirms this. Odd, no mention of the asbestos though. Wonder why...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Freewinds will be completing its refit on schedule.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, really?</p>
<p>Karin &#8212; you really suck at lying. Anonymous is going to make sure you get caught red-handed every time you do it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s proof she&#8217;s lying again:</p>
<p>Scientology&#8217;s annual CCHR convention aboard the Freewinds was scheduled for May 8th to the 15th. See a copy of the invite here:</p>
<p>http;//img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cchrmay08av3ga6.jpg</p>
<p>Knowing that this FAILBOAT has asbestos on it and that it&#8217;s going to be stuck in port for a long, long time&#8230; an enterprising member of Anonymous called the Freewind Ship Office to try to book themselves for the May 8th event.</p>
<p>For your listening pleasure:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgcLdJpbdRA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgcLdJpbdRA</a></p>
<p>No, Karin&#8230; the deathtrap is not sailing on time. Your own ship office confirms this. Odd, no mention of the asbestos though. Wonder why&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Moses</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40636</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do they care if there's asbestos on board?  It's not like they're susceptible to cancer or any of that "pre-clear" shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do they care if there&#8217;s asbestos on board?  It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re susceptible to cancer or any of that &#8220;pre-clear&#8221; shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Gallo</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40607</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Gallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per Lawrence Woodcraft's testimony, found here:

http://www.lermanet2.com/scientology/LawrenceWoodcraftAsbestos.htm

he first told Scientology about the asbestos on the Freewinds soon after they bought the vessel in 1987.

[from the affidavit on Lermanet]

8. One day Steve and I went into one of the cabins, which were in decrepit condition, and he took a hammer and removed a section of paint from the outer steel wall, as he was curious about the construction. Under the layer of paint I noticed a powdery blue fibrous substance approximately 1 Â½" thick between the paint and the steel wall. I told him I thought it was asbestos, which is a hazardous substance, and the fibers must not be allowed to go airborne. Steve said that he didn't think it was asbestos and it wasn't dangerous.

[Lawrence goes on to explain how he was trained in recognizing and identifying this substance, etc.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per Lawrence Woodcraft&#8217;s testimony, found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lermanet2.com/scientology/LawrenceWoodcraftAsbestos.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lermanet2.com/scientology/LawrenceWoodcraftAsbestos.htm</a></p>
<p>he first told Scientology about the asbestos on the Freewinds soon after they bought the vessel in 1987.</p>
<p>[from the affidavit on Lermanet]</p>
<p>8. One day Steve and I went into one of the cabins, which were in decrepit condition, and he took a hammer and removed a section of paint from the outer steel wall, as he was curious about the construction. Under the layer of paint I noticed a powdery blue fibrous substance approximately 1 Â½&#8221; thick between the paint and the steel wall. I told him I thought it was asbestos, which is a hazardous substance, and the fibers must not be allowed to go airborne. Steve said that he didn&#8217;t think it was asbestos and it wasn&#8217;t dangerous.</p>
<p>[Lawrence goes on to explain how he was trained in recognizing and identifying this substance, etc.]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-on-the-freewinds-asbestos-death-cruise-scientology-reps-respond/#comment-40598</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To beat any Scientology schills saying they don't believe the article, or that the Freewinds is fine and just going through refitting, here's the contact info for the company who quarentined the boat:

Curacao Drydock Company, Inc. Dokweg 1, Koningsplein, P.O. Box 3012, Curaç¡¯, Netherlands Antilles
Telephone: 
+(5999)-733-0000 
Fax: 
+(5999)-736-5580 
E-mail: 
info@cdmnv.com

Anyone who "doesn't believe" or wants to verify the truth, call them your-damn-self and ask them.

That should do away with the people calling BS like in Dawn's last story regarding this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To beat any Scientology schills saying they don&#8217;t believe the article, or that the Freewinds is fine and just going through refitting, here&#8217;s the contact info for the company who quarentined the boat:</p>
<p>Curacao Drydock Company, Inc. Dokweg 1, Koningsplein, P.O. Box 3012, Curaç¡¯, Netherlands Antilles<br />
Telephone:<br />
+(5999)-733-0000<br />
Fax:<br />
+(5999)-736-5580<br />
E-mail:<br />
<a href="mailto:info@cdmnv.com">info@cdmnv.com</a></p>
<p>Anyone who &#8220;doesn&#8217;t believe&#8221; or wants to verify the truth, call them your-damn-self and ask them.</p>
<p>That should do away with the people calling BS like in Dawn&#8217;s last story regarding this.</p>
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