Sorry to everyone who is attempting to keep their comments ON TOPIC (which is forced abortions in the CoS, NOT abortions in general), but since there are a few who simply cannot figure out what the topic is, I must close the comments.

Dawn and I have asked for people to please stay on topic and people can’t seem to do that. No matter one’s personal stance on abortion, you cannot attack one another over things that are not even in the article. I asked nicely and people didn’t pay attention so I must now take drastic measures.

I have more love and compassion than you can possibly fathom. I am overly empathetic and hurt with the way the world is turning. I still do not support overturning a decision that would have drastic repercussions such as Roe v Wade. I agree that abortion should not be used as birth control. Obviously the people who use it as so make poor choices time and again out of stupidity or ignorance. Simply because I disagree with those people does not mean I think abortion should not be legal at all.

I am not a Christian and will not go into the long winded reason of why I am not. Simply put, I was raised Christian and had a falling out so to speak at an early age. My hometown was a hot bed of fanatics who did not hesitate to tell me how myself and my family would be burning in hell. What religion am I? None. I choose to be a moral person with a strong spiritual core. You could try to argue that a morally sound person wouldn’t support people’s right to choose death but I will support a woman who wants to have an abortion in a clean sterile environment, rather than go back to performing them in alleyways and other shady places. That is where my caring lies. Caring for the person who makes that decision and not condemning them to a possible death.

As to answer your point about supporting a rapist or pedophiles choice to do there horrible acts, we are not speaking of those heinous acts. No, we should not allow things like that to be done. I do not lump people who have abortions in with those types of people. I do not agree with CoS and their stance of forced abortions. It is no one but the mother of the unborn child choice to decide that very serious decision.

I also don’t expect pro life to see any valid points from the pro choice side. It would make these debates a whole lot easier if both could agree to disagree. I do agree with some of your points, but the total dismissal of any pro choice’s standpoint keeps this stuck in the endless circle going nowhere.

as I’ve tried to point out from the beginning:

God’s gives us the right to choose, the free will to make good or bad decisions. This I believe.

God’s laws protect us from other’s bad decisions that could harm us and God’s laws also hold us accountable to not harm others with any of our decisions. This I believe.

Man’s laws should follow, and generally do, but . . .

If you are a Christian, God’s laws should trump man’s in every moral decision you make or in any moral view you have. If you don’t agree with God’s and you are a Christian, then ask Him to help you understand His Holy view. That is a major part in your faith – trusting that God is the ultimate wisdom and humbling to it.

the very thing that I’m trying to explain is what I’m accused of shirking away from?

can’t you see the difference between the freedom to choose to have an abortion and the actual reality of the act of an abortion?

Roe v. Wade did not give us the freedom to make this choice, women made it all throughout history. It was their God given right to choose. Do you think God didn’t know when He gave us that right that we would make wrong decisions? He still wanted us free.

Roe v. Wade provided a clean, sterile environment to murder innocent children and mentally fuck-up women for the rest of their life. Honestly, do you know anyone who has gotten over their abortion, really?

Actually, Roe v. Wade helped DM and the Sea Org. with the ability to bring up, coerce and enforce abortions. It certainly made it easy for our underage daughters to get them without our knowledge.

For the love of God, choose life always.
If not for that, for truth’s sake, don’t make murder easy. I know of at least one women who repeatedly had abortions as her method of birth control. I think that is one too many. Some of her babies were probably female.

“bad person”???????

no, bad choice

should I support a pedophile’s decision, how about a rapist’s – it’s his right to choose to do the act or not.

thank God there are laws to protect us from abusing our freedom. Thank God there are laws to protect us from pediphile’s & rapist’s horrible acts, I would also thank God if there was a law protecting us from anyone who would perform the act of abortion.

and if the essence of pro-choice is not caring, well, where’s your love and compassion?

however, if i were to be presented with such a choice, i’m not sure if i would be able to go through abortion (then again, this depends on whatever situation i am in) because it goes against my own personal beliefs/philosophy.

forcing these thoughts on people is wrong, and, again, i’ll bring up a point that has been brought up before: we all have the right to make choices, be it on lifestyle, political stances, set of beliefs, etc.

i am outraged at the so-called “church” of scientology because they strip away this right to choose for oneself, forcing them to do their bidding.

Pro choice, in my case, means I am pro whatever choice a person choses to make. I have friends who have had abortions and respect their decision to do so. I would never have one unless the situation was dire. Does this make me a “bad person”? In pro life’s eyes yes, because I support a woman’s right to choose. AAMBB had a very valid point that you chose to shirk away from, Christians should support free will, God’s greatest gift of all. He gave you the right to chose your life and what you make it. You should redirect the hypocritical thinking back to yourself because you certainly harbor vast reserves.

either your for it or against it

for it in a general population but against it for anyone you car about?

hypocritical thinking

Right to choose – always there, wether there is a law that provides a clean sterile room to help the murder along is totally another issue (Pro-choice)

they need to be separate

my quotes do not need fixing, thank you

Nice touch twisting pro-choice into pro-abortion, btw. I think that is the fundamental misunderstanding. I am pro-choice but, for myself, if my girlfriend were to get pregnant, I wouldn’t want her to get an abortion. Therein lies the beauty, Michele. It’s not impossible for one to be pro-choice and be opposed to forced/coerced abortion.

Pro-choice is just that: pro-choice. Instead of imposing my PERSONAL moral objections to abortion on others, I believe it is a woman/couple’s right to choose what is right for them. I’m not them. I don’t know their situation. I can’t judge it. I am resposible for my life and my soul and my salvation (speaking agnostically). Not theirs.

Bad choices are made every day. You made one by deciding to troll this board. Successfully, I might add.

P.S. Speaking of painting with broad brushes:

“You’re a christian = you should definately oppose the use of legal and early abortions”

Let me fix that for you:

You’re a Christian = you should definitely support the use of the greatest gift God gave us which is free will.

In summation, I personally do not agree with abortion, but I support your right to make that decision for yourself. I also support your right to voice your opinion. However, my support ends at the exact moment you try to stifle my rights and impose your personal beliefs on me.

Have a nice day.