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05/27/2008 (10:46 am)

Hulk Hogan: Listen To The Silence Between Your Ears

TMZ has released some more recordings of daddy Terry Bollea, aka Hulk Hogan, talking to son Nick while he’s cooling his heels in the pokey, and wow…I don’t know what the Hulkster’s been smokin’, but it must be gooooood stuff.

The snippet starts out talking about what I assume is a new tattoo Nick is thinking of getting:

NICK:  So, I’m, I dunno…should I get “grateful” and “awareness” under my wrist and then put “family first” on top?

TERRY:  You should get “grateful” and “awareness” right where I have it.

NICK:  Yeah, that’s where I’m gonna put it, but “family first”…should I put that underneath “grateful” and “awareness”, cause I’m afraid that if you look at the wrist from underneath it’ll say “grateful family” and the other one’ll say “awareness first”.

TERRY:  [bleeped]

So I guess Nick found something to think about in jail…what sort of lame, inane tattoo to get.  Better than thinking about what he did to screw up his life and that of John Graziano, which is such a downer, man.  Really heavy stuff.

Speaking of downers and heavy, Hulk then gets all like wow…all he needs is some blacklight:

TERRY:  All right…you ready for some heavy stuff, or you wanna keep talkin’?

NICK:  Yeah, yeah, gimme some heavy stuff, big dog.

TERRY:  All right.  Y’know that vibe, that, uh, you were on, y’know?

NICK:  Yeah.

TERRY:  That present, aware, that whole vibe you get yourself on?

NICK:  Mmm-hmm.

TERRY:  That’s, that’s just like a temporary vibe, y’know, that’s like you’re evading all those low vibes of worry and doubt and fear but you’re, before you became present, you know how you’re always worried and doubtful and fearful and all that?

NICK:  Mmm-hmm.

TERRY:  Where that’s your normal state?  Well, all of a sudden, that temporary high vibe that you get–

NICK:  Yeah.

TERRY:  That’s just a glimpse of your next stage, where you’re gonna be all the time.

NICK:  Yeah.

TERRY:  Y’know what I mean?  God is tellin’ ya that high vibe you felt when you woke up this morning and said you’re still livein’ [not a typo:  rhymes with "jivin'"]?  That’s who you really are and that’s where you’re gonna go.

NICK:  [bleeped]  God gave me a glimpse of being present, because that’s where He wants me to live all the time?

TERRY:  Right.

NICK:  Um…when…

TERRY:  And the more present you stay, the more you’re gonna…that glimpse is gonna  become your reality, y’knowwhutImean?

NICK:  Mmm-hmm.

TERRY:  Pretty soon you’re gonna live in that vibe all the time, and then once you get on that vibe all the time your dad’s gonna hit you with a bunch of other crazy sh*t and raise your level again.

NICK:  [laughs]

TERRY:  Y’know?  I’m, I’m, I’ll Bible-thump ya to death if you don’t watch out.  Dude, I’ll sit, I’ll sit across from ya and Bible-thump you for hours.

NICK:  I wanna do it every single day.

TERRY:  Dude, I got Jennifer over here to my apartment, and I used to sit her down for seven or eight hours at a time and read to her.

NICK:  [bleeped]

TERRY:  Be aware of where you are.  Become really present.  Look around.  Just don’t look, like I say, “Just don’t hear me, listen,” all right?  When you look around, just don’t look, y’know, don’t see the lights, see the shapes, the colors, be aware of the silence, the silent presence of each thing, be aware that the space around a thing…there may be a chair in the room, but there’s more space in the room than there is an object, y’know what I mean?

NICK:  Mmm-hmm.

TERRY:  Because, like, for every sound, the sound comes and goes, but it disappears into that huge emptiness…just think of how big emptiness is compared to a 747.  The 747 flies in the emptiness that’s twenty trillion billion times bigger than the plane.

NICK:  Mmm-hmm.

TERRY:  Is that too crazy for me to lay atcha?

NICK:  No, no.

TERRY:  Listen to the silence underneath the sounds.  The sound comes and goes but the silence is always there.  Touch something, anything, and feel it, acknowledge it as being, as a being in the now.

I would respectfully suggest that Terry spend a little more time actually reading the Bible, and not just thumping it.  Ain’t sayin’, just sayin’.

In an attempt to understand just what is going on here (and by the way, if you Google the words “high vibe” and “low vibe”, you get some pretty interesting results, useful in their own right but not so much for this) I did a bit of research, and one name that popped up was Frederick Lenz.  According to Wikipedia:

Frederick Philip Lenz, III, Ph.D., also known as “Rama” and “Atmananda” (February 9, 1950 in San Diego, California - April 12, 1998), was a spiritual leader who propounded a syncretic blend of Hinduism, Zen, Vedanta, and Mysticism; he called this syncresis “American Buddhism”. Lenz was also an author, software designer, businessman, and musician.  [...]

Lenz remains a controversial figure. Although many of his former students continue to describe him as a gifted spiritual teacher, more than two dozen news articles have appeared in national publications in which a number of his former students allege that Lenz was an abusive cult leader. Lenz drew much criticism from the anti-cult movement.

(I’m not here to push my beliefs onto anyone, and I am not saying that Terry is definitely a follower or proponent of this particular teaching, or any other I might assume.  Rather, I am saying that some of the phrases and thought processes matched.  Just wanted to make that clear.  Terry could have made up his own sort of thoughts concerning these things and the phrasing just happened to be similar, but it was close enough that I thought it useful to link to.  And it could be anything from New Age to Scientology to psychobabble.)

My main issue with this is that Terry is not trying to teach his son personal responsibility or accountability in life.  He isn’t even attempting to say to his son something like, “Hey, Nick, maybe we’ve been wrong all these years when it came to being way too permissive with you kids…maybe your mom and I should take a step back and reassess our lives, our values, what we believe is important.  And maybe, while you’re in jail, you should stop and think about that, too.  Y’knowwhutImean?  Think about John and the hell he and his family have to live in the rest of their lives, and the emptiness state that has become John’s ‘live-in’, and become aware of your part in putting him there.  And I’ll acknowledge within myself what my contribution to that was as it relates to my permissive parenting techniques.  Maybe that way, when you get outta there, we can both make something of our lives, instead of continuing down the same self-destructive paths we were on before.  Is that too crazy for me to lay atcha?”

Let’s face it…all this touchy-feely stuff about “being present” and “high vibes” and “be aware of the silence” isn’t going to do jack squat to help Nick to truly understand just why it is he is in jail to start with.  He is there because he was illegally under the influence (as a minor) and was speeding and racing on a public street.  Once he becomes “aware” of that fact, that will go a long way towards helping him truly turn his life around.  That “low vibe” he was feeling?  Yeah…it’s called waking up in jail and not truly understanding why and blaming everyone else (including God) for your own stupid mistakes…after all, you shouldn’t feel bad about yourself, since nothing is your fault.  The biggest disservice Hulk can do for his son is to continue talking in circles and not hitting Nick with some plain, hard truths.

Y’know, instead of stuff about 747’s and chairs and emptiness and oneness and being present.

Wonder if this why they believe God hated John enough to use Nick as a tool to punish John?

Posted by k
Filed under: Ain't Sayin'/Just Sayin', The Hogans

18 Comments »

  1. Has Dad been hanging out with Gary Busey too? Sounds like his religiopsychobabble as well.

    Can’t say it better than you did in your last two (larger) paragraphs. His schpeel is also about totally ignoring those low troughs (you know, the pesky ones where you do things that get people hurt) and concentrating on only riding the waves of the self-serving high swells, so that you never have to feel bad about yourself or make restitution. Convenient. Problem is, like you said, if you ignore your mistakes, you don’t learn anything from them and you’re doomed to repeat them, as the saying goes.

    Comment by Capcom — May 27, 2008 @ 12:52 pm

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  3. Sounds like horseshit to me. I prefer the advice committed to stone and presented on the mountain. But that’s me.

    Comment by d — May 27, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

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  5. P.S. Nice assessment as always k!

    Comment by d — May 27, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

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  7. LOL D, me too.

    Comment by Capcom — May 27, 2008 @ 3:53 pm

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  9. Nothing like telling a kid to live in the now when he really needs to be thinking about what he did and the mistakes he made. “Forget THEN, live NOW”…as in, don’t worry about having screwed up. None of it matters as long as you’re HERE. Poor John’s family can’t tell him that.

    Comment by Joanie — May 27, 2008 @ 5:52 pm

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  11. How come no one wants to talk about john refusing to wear the seatbelt? Its a self inflicted woulnd just by the fact that he chose to get in with nick. John and nick were noriously known for pushing the limits. Everyone seems to be overlooking john refusing to wear the seatbelt as if nothing he did wrong and everyone wants nicks blood. Sad. Very sad. Why is it that he gets a pass? Also God laying down some heavy sh+t on him is completely misrepresented. Think about what was said vs what is being interpreted. Both were in the same car
    One walked away with minor injuries while one didn’t. I am sure if God wanted to make him live he would have, but he chose not to. People need to get a new hobby and move on. Jeez. U think for one second hulkster didn’t have a nice new asshole tearing time with him after the accident??? Just because its not on the tape doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    Comment by bruce — May 27, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

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  13. bruce, that is an inane argument. First of all, as the driver, Nick was responsible for the safety of his passengers. That’s just the law. It was HIS responsibility to operate the vehicle in a safe manner. John’s act of getting into a car does equate to a “self-inflicted wound” as you stated, regardless of if he knew that Nick was prone to racing or dangerous driving. John putting himself in that situation without a seatbelt may have been foolish, but hardly absolves Nick of the ultimate responsibility. Also, your premise has the assumption that a seatbelt would have prevented his injury, which we do not know. In your opinion, who would have been responsible for his injuries if he HAD been wearing a seat belt?!?

    And about those comments from Hulk, God didn’t choose to spare Nick and injure John. John’s injuries were a result of his position in the car and the physics of the crash itself. Seriously, what century are we living in here?

    Comment by Brandon — May 27, 2008 @ 6:57 pm

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  15. [quote]john refusing to wear the seatbelt?[/quote]

    Bruce, did I miss something, did Nick tell John to fasten up AND JOHN REFUSED?

    Comment by Gradyman — May 27, 2008 @ 7:05 pm

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  17. What a trashy, hypocritical family these lowlifes are. How awesome that these tapes are out there for all to hear.

    I hope John’s family sues them for all they’ve got.

    Comment by Rachel — May 27, 2008 @ 7:45 pm

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  19. Don’t be so hard on Bruce. I think it’s a FABULOUS idea that we cease holding drunk and impaired drivers who kill and maim responsible for their actions. I mean really, if you don’t buckle up, the hell with ya. Kill a family while drunk out of your mind? If they’re not buckled up you get off with a warning!
    How DARE we judge these celebrity brats and risk affecting their self-esteem. These people who don’t buckle up are asking for it. Thank you Bruce for enlightening us all!

    Comment by Indy Girl — May 27, 2008 @ 8:23 pm

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  21. Hey, Bruce.

    I have mentioned TIME AND TIME AGAIN that John did not have on his seat belt at the TIME OF THE ACCIDENT. We do not know if he put it on and took it off for some reason, if he refused to put it on, if he forgot, or what. Nobody knows because Nick ain’t saying and John can’t. And it is the responsibility of the DRIVER to make sure everyone in the vehicle is safely restrained. However, seat belt or no, had Nick been driving in a responsible manner, chances are the accident NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

    But here’s an idea….DO YOUR HOMEWORK before accusing me of not bringing up a point. I linked to my previous articles right in this one, so there’s no excuse other than your laziness for not doing your own research and clicking a link. Oh wait, it’s easier to just leave a nasty comment, isn’t it?

    And yes…Hulk did say that JOHN DESERVED TO BE HURT because of his lifestyle. Please, allow me to quote Hulk and Nick’s exact words:

    TERRY (Hulk Hogan): Well, I don’t know what type of person John was or what he did to get himself in a situation…I know he was pretty aggressive and he used to yell at people and he used to do stuff, and…but some, some, for some reason, man, God laid some heavy sh*t on that kid, man. I don’t know what he was into, I…

    NICK: John was a negative person.

    TERRY: He was what?

    NICK: He was a negative person.

    Spin it however you want. Nick is a spoiled brat who has no idea why he is in jail and is only worried about rehabbing his image, and Hulk is an enabler who created this monster. As far as Hulk ripping Nick a new one, check out what Hulk said in an interview about the accident:

    “The most important thing to me was from all the eyewitnesses and everyone that was there and saw it was that they were not racing,” the former pro-wrestling superstar told The Insider. [...]

    “It’s just so unfair,” added Hogan. “Just the way the media jumped on my son and just the way they portrayed him. From my gut, it’s something that has torn two families apart, and we’re just so close to John’s family. “

    Yeah. The MOST IMPORTANT THING to Hulk Hogan is that we know his son wasn’t racing. Whatever. John was a speed junkie but it was Nick who wrecked the car. While racing. While under the influence. As a minor. Hello?

    So the next time you go visit Little Nicky in the hoosegow, please tell him what I said. I’ll give him something to think about, all right. It’s not too late for him to turn his life around but he’s got to learn some hard truths first, and you don’t learn them by observing the space around a chair.

    Comment by k — May 27, 2008 @ 9:07 pm

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  23. These two (Nick and Terry) are what’s wrong fame, excess and poor parenting. A deadly combination every time. I had hoped Nick and Terry were sincere in their concern for John, but that was a false hope, now I hope that karma Terry alluded to for John, has its way with Terry and Nick, because if anyone is asking for the hand of divinity to show its face, it’s these two selfish, twisted bastards.

    Comment by d — May 27, 2008 @ 9:18 pm

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  25. Sounds like baby Hogan needs a roomate so he will not want to come back to jail….someone like Bubba from the top bunk. LOL !

    Comment by Randy — May 27, 2008 @ 10:37 pm

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  27. I am so upset with the Bollea family. If I had heard this from individual people and not reliable news sources, I would never believe that anyone, famous or not, could be so superficial, callous and insensitive. There are more adjectives, but it’s late and these are the ones that come to mind. The hulkster clan is unbelievably awful. Their contributions to entertainment should be wiped off the record and the public should not have to tolerate their image or words again through out the “now” and the future. They are horrible, horrible people.

    Comment by debi — May 28, 2008 @ 1:59 am

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  29. The Hogan’s lived in Clearwater, FL. Scientology headquarters. That all sounded very much like Scientology speak. (Despite the “Bible” talk. Scientologists make it seem to new recruits that they can still follow their regular religion, at least initially.)

    Comment by Kevin — May 28, 2008 @ 2:15 am

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  31. You know, Kevin, I had the very same thought when I first delved into the article, but I couldn’t really find much to support my theory, other than a ill-defined hunch.

    Can anyone be of some assistance?

    Comment by k — May 28, 2008 @ 2:17 am

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  33. HE’S WAS ONLY TRYING TO COMFORT HIS SON.

    Comment by Kevin — May 28, 2008 @ 12:13 pm

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  35. [...] Hulkster, on how Nick should spend his time in jail (you know, when he’s supposed to be thinking about what put him there): That’s, that’s just like a temporary vibe, y’know, that’s like you’re evading all those low vibes of worry and doubt and fear but you’re, before you became present, you know how you’re always worried and doubtful and fearful and all that? […] [...]

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