Comments on: Anonymous Joins Andrew Morton In Amsterdam During Visit http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/ Celebrity gossip from our lips to yours Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:26:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Chuck Beatty http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47521 Chuck Beatty Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:59:33 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47521 Long range, Andrew's book will need a second edition, or a sequel book. Because someday, hopefully, when Tom Cruise finally follows the other celebrities, like Jason Beghe, OUT of Scientology, hopefully the longcat won't have Tom Cruise's tongue, and hopefully Tom will speak someday about his whole Scientology ordeal for Tom Cruise: Part 2. Hubbard's Scientology can keep the wool pulled over followers' eyes only so long. I predict Tom Cruise will speak up for a future book! Long range, Andrew’s book will need a second edition, or a sequel book. Because someday, hopefully, when Tom Cruise finally follows the other celebrities, like Jason Beghe, OUT of Scientology, hopefully the longcat won’t have Tom Cruise’s tongue, and hopefully Tom will speak someday about his whole Scientology ordeal for Tom Cruise: Part 2.

Hubbard’s Scientology can keep the wool pulled over followers’ eyes only so long. I predict Tom Cruise will speak up for a future book!

]]> By: Anonymous http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47218 Anonymous Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:36:15 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47218 Sadly DM, the ship that Miscavige served on as Hubbard's altarboy, er, messageboy was the Apollo, not the Freewinds. They didn't purchase the cancerwinds until the late 80s, after Miscavige pulled off his coup to take over from Hubbard's chosen successors. He's still been on it a bunch, however. Sadly DM, the ship that Miscavige served on as Hubbard’s altarboy, er, messageboy was the Apollo, not the Freewinds. They didn’t purchase the cancerwinds until the late 80s, after Miscavige pulled off his coup to take over from Hubbard’s chosen successors.

He’s still been on it a bunch, however.

]]> By: YetAnotherAnon http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47179 YetAnotherAnon Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:53:44 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47179 Jim since you seem to care about the state of Scientology you might interested to know that David Miscavige is squirreling the tech. Jim since you seem to care about the state of Scientology you might interested to know that David Miscavige is squirreling the tech.

]]> By: DM Longcat http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47141 DM Longcat Sat, 31 May 2008 15:38:59 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47141 Well at least that little coward David Miscavige spent a lot of time on the Freewinds when he was a Commodore's messenger[usually little girls, DM]. So he will most likely suffer the same fate, a lot of people will, by being knowingly exposed to a known human carcinogen. This is usually not in my nature, but I truly hope he suffers a Looooong, Looooong, painful, slow, and agonizing death for is crimes. I also hope our government is found to be complicit in this crime, since they have been notified and have done "SQUAT" to help inform these people. PTS - Potential trouble source, as in, “That bitch at Glosslip is a real PTS!” Expect Us Worldwide 06-14-08 Well at least that little coward David Miscavige spent a lot of time on the Freewinds when he was a Commodore’s messenger[usually little girls, DM]. So he will most likely suffer the same fate, a lot of people will, by being knowingly exposed to a known human carcinogen. This is usually not in my nature, but I truly hope he suffers a Looooong, Looooong, painful, slow, and agonizing death for is crimes. I also hope our government is found to be complicit in this crime, since they have been notified and have done “SQUAT” to help inform these people.

PTS – Potential trouble source, as in, “That bitch at Glosslip is a real PTS!”

Expect Us
Worldwide 06-14-08

]]> By: anon1957 http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47099 anon1957 Sat, 31 May 2008 03:04:09 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47099 "that there are lots of people like me who really like what Scientology delivers?" Jim, does it matter to you that this "religion" that you like so much is built upon thousands and thousands and thousands of virtual slave labor? Are you so selfish that you are willing to take your so-called wins at the expense of the liberty and happiness of your fellow scientologists? There are too many ex-Sea Org members speaking out about the abuse that they have suffered for you to deny the truth. If you do, it is because it is an inconvenient truth, and that is, simply put, not an ethical position on your part. Go to www.exseaorg.com, and then decide whether you can continue to like scientology with a clear conscience. “that there are lots of people like me who really like what Scientology delivers?”

Jim, does it matter to you that this “religion” that you like so much is built upon thousands and thousands and thousands of virtual slave labor?

Are you so selfish that you are willing to take your so-called wins at the expense of the liberty and happiness of your fellow scientologists?

There are too many ex-Sea Org members speaking out about the abuse that they have suffered for you to deny the truth. If you do, it is because it is an inconvenient truth, and that is, simply put, not an ethical position on your part.

Go to http://www.exseaorg.com, and then decide whether you can continue to like scientology with a clear conscience.

]]> By: DM Longcat http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47069 DM Longcat Fri, 30 May 2008 22:49:57 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47069 "Scientology...is not a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251 Oh! No he didn't! "Yes he did" Jim, ever been on the Freewinds? Here about the Blue Asbestos(100x deadlier than regular)? Hope you were not on that ship! If you were though rest assure: "The Church of Scientology doesn't give a rats ass if you drop dead tomorrow" But since OT's don't get sick and die at an alarming rate in there 40's & 50's your all set. So I guess the 10's of thousands of people who were tricked into getting on that DEATH TRAP have nothing to worry about huh? SOME "CHURCH" PTS - Potential trouble source, as in, “That bitch at Glosslip is a real PTS!” Keep Enturbulating Dawn Expect Us Worldwide 06-14-08 “Scientology…is not a religion.” – L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251
Oh! No he didn’t! “Yes he did”

Jim, ever been on the Freewinds? Here about the Blue Asbestos(100x deadlier than regular)?

Hope you were not on that ship!

If you were though rest assure: “The Church of Scientology doesn’t give a rats ass if you drop dead tomorrow”

But since OT’s don’t get sick and die at an alarming rate in there 40’s & 50’s your all set. So I guess the 10’s of thousands of people who were tricked into getting on that DEATH TRAP have nothing to worry about huh?

SOME “CHURCH”

PTS – Potential trouble source, as in, “That bitch at Glosslip is a real PTS!”

Keep Enturbulating Dawn

Expect Us
Worldwide 06-14-08

]]> By: John Smith http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-47021 John Smith Fri, 30 May 2008 17:10:21 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-47021 Jim: Yes, it gets lost in the shuffle. It's also not relevant. Although some Anon would ideally see L Ron's tachings abolished, as a group this is not one of our goals. Not how we're not going after FreeZoners. Jim:

Yes, it gets lost in the shuffle. It’s also not relevant. Although some Anon would ideally see L Ron’s tachings abolished, as a group this is not one of our goals. Not how we’re not going after FreeZoners.

]]> By: Inscrutabledrum http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-46913 Inscrutabledrum Thu, 29 May 2008 19:22:12 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-46913 Whenever I change for the better, it is self driven. Crediting Scientology for personal gains (with its unprovable and unworkable "tech") is denying yourself the inborn power to change. We all have this power. Scientology will tell you that you need IT to change. Completely false. No one can give you what you already have. Scientology, seems to be saying to people that they can not truly change or become better without it. Again, completely false. The truth is that no one NEEDS religion to better themselves. I give thanks to Anonymous and Andrew Morton for tearing the veil off of this cult. More power to the humans who show us all they can change without having to use religion. Have faith in yourself. Whenever I change for the better, it is self driven. Crediting Scientology for personal gains (with its unprovable and unworkable “tech”) is denying yourself the inborn power to change. We all have this power. Scientology will tell you that you need IT to change. Completely false. No one can give you what you already have. Scientology, seems to be saying to people that they can not truly change or become better without it. Again, completely false. The truth is that no one NEEDS religion to better themselves. I give thanks to Anonymous and Andrew Morton for tearing the veil off of this cult. More power to the humans who show us all they can change without having to use religion. Have faith in yourself.

]]> By: domino http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-46864 domino Thu, 29 May 2008 12:16:57 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-46864 The idea of a celebrity or politician (it is an election year)at every protest sounds like a nifty idea! Oh, and perhaps a commercial that states that if your "church" lies to you and tells you that the "evil-overlord-Xenu" stuff are all lies, and then you find out that it IS what they believe, well, you can sue them for all the money you put into it. Keep receipts, guys! Only the first audit is free! No one likes being on the wrong end of a civil suit..... This blue-asbestos problem isn't going to go away, either.. I don't care what kind of waiver you might have signed to get on the ship. Running a death-trap like "Freewinds" and knowingly putting people at risk is ILLEGAL. The idea of a celebrity or politician (it is an election year)at every protest sounds like a nifty idea! Oh, and perhaps a commercial that states that if your “church” lies to you and tells you that the “evil-overlord-Xenu” stuff are all lies, and then you find out that it IS what they believe, well, you can sue them for all the money you put into it. Keep receipts, guys! Only the first audit is free! No one likes being on the wrong end of a civil suit….. This blue-asbestos problem isn’t going to go away, either.. I don’t care what kind of waiver you might have signed to get on the ship. Running a death-trap like “Freewinds” and knowingly putting people at risk is ILLEGAL.

]]> By: Hubbard-Telescope http://glosslip.com/2008/05/28/anonymous-joins-andrew-morton-in-amsterdam-during-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-46842 Hubbard-Telescope Thu, 29 May 2008 06:49:34 +0000 http://glosslip.com/?p=3859#comment-46842 Jim, there's a big difference between the personal "wins" experienced by scientologists and the criminal and inhumane actions of the cult itself. I believe it's been mentioned to death that Anonymous does not protest against the beliefs of Scientology. As fans of the first amendment, we are all for protecting an idividual's right to believe whatever they want. In fact, Anonymous has zero qualms with the Free Zone who believe in LRH and Scientology tech. If it works for them and works for you, awesome. I hope it helps. What we DO have an issue with are the corrupt, illegal, and inhumane practices with the cult organization itself. It has been compared to the protests against the Catholic Church when the molestation scandal broke. The protests had nothing to do with the religious beliefs and everything to do with how the organization and hierarchy handled the illegal action resulting in harming innocent people. We protest against the coerced abortions, the fair game policy, the deaths of those kept from medications or abused, the RPF and children's labor camps, the willful exposure of Scientologists to cancer causing asbestos, the scam and fraud used to drain members of hundreds of thousands of dollars, the wrongfully acquired tax exemption status for a business, the infiltration into the government, the harassment, stalking, and threats made to critics including minors, the covering up of rape and abuse...the list continues. If the tech works for you Jim, I'm glad. However, I'd suggest taking a good hard look at the organization itself and their documented actions. You can practice your beliefs outside of the "Church," and people are there who can help you. If you care about the "Church" and honestly want to help people, try to help end these abuses and improve the lives of your fellow Scientologists! Jim, there’s a big difference between the personal “wins” experienced by scientologists and the criminal and inhumane actions of the cult itself. I believe it’s been mentioned to death that Anonymous does not protest against the beliefs of Scientology. As fans of the first amendment, we are all for protecting an idividual’s right to believe whatever they want. In fact, Anonymous has zero qualms with the Free Zone who believe in LRH and Scientology tech. If it works for them and works for you, awesome. I hope it helps.

What we DO have an issue with are the corrupt, illegal, and inhumane practices with the cult organization itself. It has been compared to the protests against the Catholic Church when the molestation scandal broke. The protests had nothing to do with the religious beliefs and everything to do with how the organization and hierarchy handled the illegal action resulting in harming innocent people.

We protest against the coerced abortions, the fair game policy, the deaths of those kept from medications or abused, the RPF and children’s labor camps, the willful exposure of Scientologists to cancer causing asbestos, the scam and fraud used to drain members of hundreds of thousands of dollars, the wrongfully acquired tax exemption status for a business, the infiltration into the government, the harassment, stalking, and threats made to critics including minors, the covering up of rape and abuse…the list continues.

If the tech works for you Jim, I’m glad. However, I’d suggest taking a good hard look at the organization itself and their documented actions. You can practice your beliefs outside of the “Church,” and people are there who can help you. If you care about the “Church” and honestly want to help people, try to help end these abuses and improve the lives of your fellow Scientologists!

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