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		<title>By: Scientology 101: How the Church of Scientology uses &#8216;lawfare&#8217; to silence its critics - Counterknowledge.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scientology 101: How the Church of Scientology uses &#8216;lawfare&#8217; to silence its critics - Counterknowledge.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note: An earlier version of this article on a celebrity gossip blog called Glosslip but this article is still relevant today. In this article, I wrote mainly about how the &quot;Church&quot; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MKUltra</title>
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		<dc:creator>MKUltra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientologists.... you have no confront. Where is &quot;hiding&quot; on the Tone Scale again?

You come here, looking to refute what you are told are terrible lies about your &quot;Church&quot; (while engaging in what could be construed as threats of harm), but you have forgotten to bring one very important thing to the table: facts. Anon can back up their words with reams of documentation. You have none but the say-so of your superiors. you hide in fear from the facts because you believe that somehow your &quot;eternity&quot; is at stake? Yet the people you work so hard to ruin, destroy and even kill, no longer have the option of an eternity, do they?

Scientology is self and egocentric. Everything is fine if it will benefit the Scientologists and everything is geared to make this the case. Grandstanding for photo ops in disaster zones, however, never does your &quot;Church&quot; provide the actual relief materials. The Purif is expensive and runs the risk of destroying the liver, but someone gets paid, right? What &quot;Church&quot; has what is essentially a &quot;secret service&quot; and retains a pool of lawyers?

DM IS YOUR SP. Superpower will never be completed. Ideal Orgs are being purchased with parishioners money, and yet, they are near empty. DM has squrreled the tech and sold it back to you over and over; GAT, the &quot;New Basics&quot;. DM has lied to you about corporate support of Way to Happiness too... Kimora Lee, for example NEVER agreed to support it. Dell Computers has outright denied involvement in the project, as has Coca-Cola in Pakistan. What else has COB lied to you about?

Your constant lie about protesters and critics being &quot;apostates&quot; has worn thin beyond use. There are more standing against you now than you ever had in legitimate numbers, so how can you claim they are all apostates? The dam has not only craked, it is about to burst and sweep Scientology Inc. away. I hope you have an exit strategy planned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientologists&#8230;. you have no confront. Where is &#8220;hiding&#8221; on the Tone Scale again?</p>
<p>You come here, looking to refute what you are told are terrible lies about your &#8220;Church&#8221; (while engaging in what could be construed as threats of harm), but you have forgotten to bring one very important thing to the table: facts. Anon can back up their words with reams of documentation. You have none but the say-so of your superiors. you hide in fear from the facts because you believe that somehow your &#8220;eternity&#8221; is at stake? Yet the people you work so hard to ruin, destroy and even kill, no longer have the option of an eternity, do they?</p>
<p>Scientology is self and egocentric. Everything is fine if it will benefit the Scientologists and everything is geared to make this the case. Grandstanding for photo ops in disaster zones, however, never does your &#8220;Church&#8221; provide the actual relief materials. The Purif is expensive and runs the risk of destroying the liver, but someone gets paid, right? What &#8220;Church&#8221; has what is essentially a &#8220;secret service&#8221; and retains a pool of lawyers?</p>
<p>DM IS YOUR SP. Superpower will never be completed. Ideal Orgs are being purchased with parishioners money, and yet, they are near empty. DM has squrreled the tech and sold it back to you over and over; GAT, the &#8220;New Basics&#8221;. DM has lied to you about corporate support of Way to Happiness too&#8230; Kimora Lee, for example NEVER agreed to support it. Dell Computers has outright denied involvement in the project, as has Coca-Cola in Pakistan. What else has COB lied to you about?</p>
<p>Your constant lie about protesters and critics being &#8220;apostates&#8221; has worn thin beyond use. There are more standing against you now than you ever had in legitimate numbers, so how can you claim they are all apostates? The dam has not only craked, it is about to burst and sweep Scientology Inc. away. I hope you have an exit strategy planned.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Anon 1

Good point.

Anons say that Scientology is using the legal system but Scientology wouldn&#039;t need to use it if it  wouldn&#039;t be attacked!

Scientology delivers Courses,Counseling and in a Church one can also buy Scientology books. If a person does not like the principles of Scientology he can and should follow a different religion and leave Scientology alone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Anon 1</p>
<p>Good point.</p>
<p>Anons say that Scientology is using the legal system but Scientology wouldn&#8217;t need to use it if it  wouldn&#8217;t be attacked!</p>
<p>Scientology delivers Courses,Counseling and in a Church one can also buy Scientology books. If a person does not like the principles of Scientology he can and should follow a different religion and leave Scientology alone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ANON1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANON1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom of religion is a right for ALL AMERICANS. Scientologies have the same right to practice what they believe and non-believers have the same right.

The problem with this country today is Youtube Yuppies and Google Geeks have nothing else to do with their time. How  is protesting the Chruch of Scientology helping your fellow man? Start a food drive for the homeless or volunteer in a hospital. The protests against the Church of Scientology are conducted for fame. If Tom Cruise and other famous people were not connected to the Church, no one would give a crap about Scientology.

Leave them alone and they will leave you alone. Harass and protest someone...be prepared for the same treatment back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of religion is a right for ALL AMERICANS. Scientologies have the same right to practice what they believe and non-believers have the same right.</p>
<p>The problem with this country today is Youtube Yuppies and Google Geeks have nothing else to do with their time. How  is protesting the Chruch of Scientology helping your fellow man? Start a food drive for the homeless or volunteer in a hospital. The protests against the Church of Scientology are conducted for fame. If Tom Cruise and other famous people were not connected to the Church, no one would give a crap about Scientology.</p>
<p>Leave them alone and they will leave you alone. Harass and protest someone&#8230;be prepared for the same treatment back.</p>
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		<title>By: How the Church of Scientology used, and STILL uses, the American legal system to destroy critics &#171; Number 6-Anonymous Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>How the Church of Scientology used, and STILL uses, the American legal system to destroy critics &#171; Number 6-Anonymous Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anon, Anon, My Boyfriend's Back!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon, Anon, My Boyfriend's Back!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terryeo, at what point does a strong opinion become an attack? Who decides? You? And, what difference does it make that the opinions/attacks are made of/on an established organization?

There is a simple solution:

If everything we&#039;ve alluded to is false, prove it.

Natural rationality and skepticism would lead one down this path:

Ex-members say there&#039;s an RPF that&#039;s horrible. You say there isn&#039;t. The ex-member doesn&#039;t have anything at stake, but the Church does. This leaves one more inclined to believe the ex-member.

Current critics and protesters say they&#039;ve been harassed, followed, and threatened on a criminal scale. You say Fair Game ended years ago. The critics don&#039;t have anything at stake, but the Church does. This leaves one more inclined to believe the critics and protesters.

Disconnected family members and ex-members tell horrible stories about families being being forced apart in and outside of the Church at the request of the Church. You say disconnection doesn&#039;t exist or, it does, but it&#039;s at the behest of the member. You can&#039;t even get your story straight on this one, but, even if you could, one would still be inclined to believe the disconnected family members and ex-members because, and you see where I&#039;m going with this, they don&#039;t have anything at stake, but the church does.

You get the idea. Prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the allegations aren&#039;t true and it all goes away. Pretty easy, really. That is, unless it&#039;s all true. Which it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terryeo, at what point does a strong opinion become an attack? Who decides? You? And, what difference does it make that the opinions/attacks are made of/on an established organization?</p>
<p>There is a simple solution:</p>
<p>If everything we&#8217;ve alluded to is false, prove it.</p>
<p>Natural rationality and skepticism would lead one down this path:</p>
<p>Ex-members say there&#8217;s an RPF that&#8217;s horrible. You say there isn&#8217;t. The ex-member doesn&#8217;t have anything at stake, but the Church does. This leaves one more inclined to believe the ex-member.</p>
<p>Current critics and protesters say they&#8217;ve been harassed, followed, and threatened on a criminal scale. You say Fair Game ended years ago. The critics don&#8217;t have anything at stake, but the Church does. This leaves one more inclined to believe the critics and protesters.</p>
<p>Disconnected family members and ex-members tell horrible stories about families being being forced apart in and outside of the Church at the request of the Church. You say disconnection doesn&#8217;t exist or, it does, but it&#8217;s at the behest of the member. You can&#8217;t even get your story straight on this one, but, even if you could, one would still be inclined to believe the disconnected family members and ex-members because, and you see where I&#8217;m going with this, they don&#8217;t have anything at stake, but the church does.</p>
<p>You get the idea. Prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the allegations aren&#8217;t true and it all goes away. Pretty easy, really. That is, unless it&#8217;s all true. Which it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rarely indeed is lawsuit filed to prevent a person from expressing their opinion.&quot;

Ha ha!  No seriously.  Ha ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rarely indeed is lawsuit filed to prevent a person from expressing their opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha ha!  No seriously.  Ha ha!</p>
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		<title>By: number 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank G,

There are other ways to defend your religion that don&#039;t involve destroying critics.  Oh, but you can&#039;t do that, because everything Gerry Armstrong has said so far is true.  

And Terryeo, have you heard of Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.  It&#039;s not as rare as you say, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank G,</p>
<p>There are other ways to defend your religion that don&#8217;t involve destroying critics.  Oh, but you can&#8217;t do that, because everything Gerry Armstrong has said so far is true.  </p>
<p>And Terryeo, have you heard of Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.  It&#8217;s not as rare as you say, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Terryeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terryeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To have an opinion and to express it, that is one thing.
To attack an established institution is another thing.

Most people realize this difference.  Some of those wrote the USA&#039;s Bill of Rights.  Others, however, are unable to observe that an individual&#039;s opinion resides in a different kettle of fish than his actions.

Rarely indeed is lawsuit filed to prevent a person from expressing their opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To have an opinion and to express it, that is one thing.<br />
To attack an established institution is another thing.</p>
<p>Most people realize this difference.  Some of those wrote the USA&#8217;s Bill of Rights.  Others, however, are unable to observe that an individual&#8217;s opinion resides in a different kettle of fish than his actions.</p>
<p>Rarely indeed is lawsuit filed to prevent a person from expressing their opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitsu Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitsu Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Part of the Scientology structure deals with attachs on Scientology aimed at impeding people to study and and follow Scientology. So if someone starts a campaign of lies aimed at destroying Scientology he will have to face the rightful action of Scientology aimed at impiding him to do so!&quot;

Frank G is that a threat of fair game? I sure hope not because this proves what the critics have been saying all along and has even been documented in court. Any other religion using these kinds of tactics which you apply so liberally and &quot;without sorrow&quot; would also be criticized. No one cares WHAT you believe, it&#039;s the methods you employ to silence your critics by every means possible, the abuses towards your former and present members, and your fraudulent pyramid money schemes hiding behind all your &quot;fronts&quot; like Wise, NarCONon, CCHR and many, many others. ANd quite frankly Frank why do you come on these blogs if you think they are all lies? Worry much? Must be close to Staturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Part of the Scientology structure deals with attachs on Scientology aimed at impeding people to study and and follow Scientology. So if someone starts a campaign of lies aimed at destroying Scientology he will have to face the rightful action of Scientology aimed at impiding him to do so!&#8221;</p>
<p>Frank G is that a threat of fair game? I sure hope not because this proves what the critics have been saying all along and has even been documented in court. Any other religion using these kinds of tactics which you apply so liberally and &#8220;without sorrow&#8221; would also be criticized. No one cares WHAT you believe, it&#8217;s the methods you employ to silence your critics by every means possible, the abuses towards your former and present members, and your fraudulent pyramid money schemes hiding behind all your &#8220;fronts&#8221; like Wise, NarCONon, CCHR and many, many others. ANd quite frankly Frank why do you come on these blogs if you think they are all lies? Worry much? Must be close to Staturday.</p>
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