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	<title>Comments on: Chinese Gymnasts Too Young To Compete, Web Documents Show</title>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read several of these comments and as a former gymnast I must state many things. I agree with many of the comments other individuals have made. The Chinese girls are not at fault, as someone said previously if they were told to compete, they compete, God knows what would happened to them if they refuse, so if the medals would be taken away I would feel horrible for the girls, because they did what they were told. Also the girls ARE TAKEN,  as stated, &quot;they take girls at a young age and if any show any special skills such as flexiblity they will be kept.&quot; And also some do beg to stay, so both are right. I hate to say it, but if they are too young, they did break the rules and unfortunately something must be done. Look as Andrea Raducan, her medal was stripped because she took cough medicine given by her coach that contained a drug she was unaware of. The point is if you cheat something much be done. I, for one, do not think there should be an age rule. What&#039;s the reasoning, becuase they don&#039;t want the girls to go through pressure, most of those girls are senior elites at a young age and go through that sort of pressure, if they can do the skills let them compete, why make them wait four more years when they can do it now. Look at Dominque Moceanu, she was 14, before the age change, and she handeled it well. Thats just my opinion. The head Chinese coach said if his team did not win 5 Gold Medals he would jump out of the tallest building...they were under tremendous pressure...that is why they would do anything to win. I do not blame the girls...I blame their government, and its a hard situation, because the people who would be punished the most are the girls...for osmething they had no control over and worked so hard for....its a very tough situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read several of these comments and as a former gymnast I must state many things. I agree with many of the comments other individuals have made. The Chinese girls are not at fault, as someone said previously if they were told to compete, they compete, God knows what would happened to them if they refuse, so if the medals would be taken away I would feel horrible for the girls, because they did what they were told. Also the girls ARE TAKEN,  as stated, &#8220;they take girls at a young age and if any show any special skills such as flexiblity they will be kept.&#8221; And also some do beg to stay, so both are right. I hate to say it, but if they are too young, they did break the rules and unfortunately something must be done. Look as Andrea Raducan, her medal was stripped because she took cough medicine given by her coach that contained a drug she was unaware of. The point is if you cheat something much be done. I, for one, do not think there should be an age rule. What&#8217;s the reasoning, becuase they don&#8217;t want the girls to go through pressure, most of those girls are senior elites at a young age and go through that sort of pressure, if they can do the skills let them compete, why make them wait four more years when they can do it now. Look at Dominque Moceanu, she was 14, before the age change, and she handeled it well. Thats just my opinion. The head Chinese coach said if his team did not win 5 Gold Medals he would jump out of the tallest building&#8230;they were under tremendous pressure&#8230;that is why they would do anything to win. I do not blame the girls&#8230;I blame their government, and its a hard situation, because the people who would be punished the most are the girls&#8230;for osmething they had no control over and worked so hard for&#8230;.its a very tough situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone, no matter what nation they are from, should have their medals revoked for ANY form of not following the official rules, even if they knew they were guilty of it or not. How well would it have went if any other nation had 14 year olds competing that may have won gold? Ever heard this: &quot;Ignorance of the law is no excuse.&quot;
So if anyone anywhere didn&#039;t know if it was ok or not to shoot someone they shouldn&#039;t be punished but whoever in charge should be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone, no matter what nation they are from, should have their medals revoked for ANY form of not following the official rules, even if they knew they were guilty of it or not. How well would it have went if any other nation had 14 year olds competing that may have won gold? Ever heard this: &#8220;Ignorance of the law is no excuse.&#8221;<br />
So if anyone anywhere didn&#8217;t know if it was ok or not to shoot someone they shouldn&#8217;t be punished but whoever in charge should be?</p>
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		<title>By: keepsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>keepsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the report said was &#039;inauthoritative evidence&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the report said was &#8216;inauthoritative evidence&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s pretty rich to come to a celeb blog and complain that people aren&#039;t taking real news seriously enough.  What&#039;s to say that when people leave here, they don&#039;t go to CNN or MSNBC or the NYT or wherever else they choose to get their serious news from?  How do you know that the people who vote for AI (not me, not for years anyway) don&#039;t vote for our President?  How do you know that people who see the inconsistencies here don&#039;t also worry about Iraq or gas prices or the election?

China.  There are certain tracks on the internet that can&#039;t be hidden.  Sure, they can claim that it was a typo...on several different news sites and in more than one official database.  Same typo each time...but it sure was a typo, nothing else.  They&#039;ll wriggle free somehow, I&#039;m certain of it.  It&#039;s like the weapon found by the murder victim, with the suspect&#039;s fingerprints, footprints of the suspect&#039;s shoes leading to the suspect&#039;s house, and a receipt showing the suspect bought the gun and the bullets...but you can&#039;t put the gun in the suspect&#039;s hand.  So it gets thrown out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that it&#8217;s pretty rich to come to a celeb blog and complain that people aren&#8217;t taking real news seriously enough.  What&#8217;s to say that when people leave here, they don&#8217;t go to CNN or MSNBC or the NYT or wherever else they choose to get their serious news from?  How do you know that the people who vote for AI (not me, not for years anyway) don&#8217;t vote for our President?  How do you know that people who see the inconsistencies here don&#8217;t also worry about Iraq or gas prices or the election?</p>
<p>China.  There are certain tracks on the internet that can&#8217;t be hidden.  Sure, they can claim that it was a typo&#8230;on several different news sites and in more than one official database.  Same typo each time&#8230;but it sure was a typo, nothing else.  They&#8217;ll wriggle free somehow, I&#8217;m certain of it.  It&#8217;s like the weapon found by the murder victim, with the suspect&#8217;s fingerprints, footprints of the suspect&#8217;s shoes leading to the suspect&#8217;s house, and a receipt showing the suspect bought the gun and the bullets&#8230;but you can&#8217;t put the gun in the suspect&#8217;s hand.  So it gets thrown out.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for welcoming me K. i do know this is a site about CELEBRITY NEWS. that is actually why i posted here. you see the people who are actually talking about the election or the war in Iraq are at CNN. so i did not need for my comment to be directed to them. it was intended for people who currently are not thinking or talking about &quot;important&quot; things such a war and energy problems. i was just suggesting that if people would use more of there time and energy towards our future and not about CELEBRITY NEWS, things might actually change. but now i am off topic on the situation.

back to the China situation. (that you apparently overlooked in my perilous post) i do think that is not possible to prove. people can say typo in news and it is possible for china to fake documents. all we can do is wait for there decision. but i am going to guess and say that the OC (Olympic Committee) will say there is insufficient proof and will allow them to keep there medals. if indeed the girls did lie. then that weight will be on them for the rest of there life. some day the truth will come out. but i don&#039;t think that will be some day soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for welcoming me K. i do know this is a site about CELEBRITY NEWS. that is actually why i posted here. you see the people who are actually talking about the election or the war in Iraq are at CNN. so i did not need for my comment to be directed to them. it was intended for people who currently are not thinking or talking about &#8220;important&#8221; things such a war and energy problems. i was just suggesting that if people would use more of there time and energy towards our future and not about CELEBRITY NEWS, things might actually change. but now i am off topic on the situation.</p>
<p>back to the China situation. (that you apparently overlooked in my perilous post) i do think that is not possible to prove. people can say typo in news and it is possible for china to fake documents. all we can do is wait for there decision. but i am going to guess and say that the OC (Olympic Committee) will say there is insufficient proof and will allow them to keep there medals. if indeed the girls did lie. then that weight will be on them for the rest of there life. some day the truth will come out. but i don&#8217;t think that will be some day soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGAIN there is controversy for China involving a little girl at the Olympic Games. If the Chinese were perfectly willing to misrepresent to the world as &quot;live&quot; the lip-syncing performance of one little girl for something as innocuous as the singing of their national anthem at the opening ceremonies, can there be even the slightest doubt that they would do the same with another little girl in order to win Olympic gold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGAIN there is controversy for China involving a little girl at the Olympic Games. If the Chinese were perfectly willing to misrepresent to the world as &#8220;live&#8221; the lip-syncing performance of one little girl for something as innocuous as the singing of their national anthem at the opening ceremonies, can there be even the slightest doubt that they would do the same with another little girl in order to win Olympic gold?</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Joey.  k here.  I just wanted to be the first to welcome you to GlossLip.  And, in case you overlooked the title bar, please allow me to explain just what this site is about.

CELEBRITY NEWS.

Yep.

If you want hard-hitting news coverage about the war in Iraq or the Presidental election, I hear &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN&lt;/a&gt; has a website.  Not sure if you&#039;ve heard about it yet.  You can visit it and read and leave comments and everything!  Kewl!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Joey.  k here.  I just wanted to be the first to welcome you to GlossLip.  And, in case you overlooked the title bar, please allow me to explain just what this site is about.</p>
<p>CELEBRITY NEWS.</p>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p>If you want hard-hitting news coverage about the war in Iraq or the Presidental election, I hear <a href="http://www.cnn.com" rel="nofollow">CNN</a> has a website.  Not sure if you&#8217;ve heard about it yet.  You can visit it and read and leave comments and everything!  Kewl!</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok 1st of all. its called the Olympic GAMES!they are games! the winners do get to control anything. it just proves who has the time and money to train for the games.  if they girls are too young then fine take away the medals they won. because they broke the rules. that is if they can prove it (They as in the Olympic Committee) 2nd of all i saw someone commented on the landing...([post 18) ok thats actually not big. its a 10th of a point on the new scoring system. and it came down to math on the scores. they are the judges for a reason. because they know what they are doing. let the officials handle it. 

you know if so many Americans care more about something actually important like eco-friendly energy or the &quot;war&quot; in iraq or even in Georgia. then the world would be better. instead we have Americans (im American as well) sitting on there pc and yelling at there TV. did you know more people voted in American idol then the presidential vote? 

Wake up people!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok 1st of all. its called the Olympic GAMES!they are games! the winners do get to control anything. it just proves who has the time and money to train for the games.  if they girls are too young then fine take away the medals they won. because they broke the rules. that is if they can prove it (They as in the Olympic Committee) 2nd of all i saw someone commented on the landing&#8230;([post 18) ok thats actually not big. its a 10th of a point on the new scoring system. and it came down to math on the scores. they are the judges for a reason. because they know what they are doing. let the officials handle it. </p>
<p>you know if so many Americans care more about something actually important like eco-friendly energy or the &#8220;war&#8221; in iraq or even in Georgia. then the world would be better. instead we have Americans (im American as well) sitting on there pc and yelling at there TV. did you know more people voted in American idol then the presidential vote? </p>
<p>Wake up people!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mentioned it a couple of times.  It IS outrageous that the routines in question were scored higher than they should have been, due to technical mistakes (even the on-air commentators said so).  Personally, I think that this is another indicator of their young age...they do not have the extra year or two of national/international competition that the older girls have on other teams.  Sticking it in practice and sticking it while the entire world is watching (not to mention your country, where it is shameful to fail) are two different things.

On the routines they did very well in, they were scored well.  On the routines that were questionable, they still scored better than they should have.  The other teams (including the USA) had harsher penalties taken off for smaller mistakes...although we did have a few biggies that, by themselves, impacted the points.  Could the USA have won gold had there not been an obvious inability on the judges part to properly judge (it was suggested that some of the judges were inexperienced)?  Could any of the other teams there won gold?  Maybe.  But all that is asked is that ALL competitors be subject to the same rules.

Everybody is too afraid of &quot;offending&quot; the Chinese.  I hope they enjoy these games because this will be the last time they ever host them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mentioned it a couple of times.  It IS outrageous that the routines in question were scored higher than they should have been, due to technical mistakes (even the on-air commentators said so).  Personally, I think that this is another indicator of their young age&#8230;they do not have the extra year or two of national/international competition that the older girls have on other teams.  Sticking it in practice and sticking it while the entire world is watching (not to mention your country, where it is shameful to fail) are two different things.</p>
<p>On the routines they did very well in, they were scored well.  On the routines that were questionable, they still scored better than they should have.  The other teams (including the USA) had harsher penalties taken off for smaller mistakes&#8230;although we did have a few biggies that, by themselves, impacted the points.  Could the USA have won gold had there not been an obvious inability on the judges part to properly judge (it was suggested that some of the judges were inexperienced)?  Could any of the other teams there won gold?  Maybe.  But all that is asked is that ALL competitors be subject to the same rules.</p>
<p>Everybody is too afraid of &#8220;offending&#8221; the Chinese.  I hope they enjoy these games because this will be the last time they ever host them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, they obviously are younger, but what about the judging? Everyone is looking at the age but nobody seems to care that the Chinesse girls fell on their routines and still got high scores and medals. I can accept the age but the unfair judging is outrageous!! The only question i ask is....How in the world did they mess up that many times and that badly (dropping and not sticking it) and still recieve medals???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, they obviously are younger, but what about the judging? Everyone is looking at the age but nobody seems to care that the Chinesse girls fell on their routines and still got high scores and medals. I can accept the age but the unfair judging is outrageous!! The only question i ask is&#8230;.How in the world did they mess up that many times and that badly (dropping and not sticking it) and still recieve medals???</p>
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