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11/08/2008 (6:53 pm)

1300 People Respond In The Search For Missing Child Caylee Anthony

As we reported earlier, today began the extensive search for missing toddler Caylee Anthony, orchestrated by Tim Miller of EquuSearch. Orlando’s WESH is reporting that at least 1300 people showed up from all over the country to assist in searching areas in and around Orlando for the 3-year old Caylee, who’s big brown eyes have both haunted and captured a nation. This number is significantly higher than the initial estimates of 500, but still lower than Mr. Miller had hoped for set at 5000. Maybe tomorrow will bring even great numbers.

Caylee, who was first reported missing in July, actually was missing sometime in June. Her mother, Casey Anthony, waited 31 days to report her daughter missing, and only did so after her parents became involved with the case. Casey Anthony has since been charged with several felonies in the case, number one being first degree murder.

Here’s more on today’s search from WESH.

A total of about 1,300 volunteers came out to help today in the search for Caylee Anthony and Jennifer Kesse.

There have been some discoveries of what appear to be animal bones at Blanchard Park and a few other locations.

An Equusearch representative said as far as she knew, sheriff’s investigators had not been called in to look at any evidence. The volunteers have come from as far away as Canada and plan to search until dusk tonight.

They will resume searching tomorrow morning and Equusearch says, on Monday, it will reassess its plan.

In addition to the volunteers, dozens of bounty hunters have come in from all over the country at the request of bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.

Glosslip commenter Jeff was there, and has posted some pictures of today’s search on his MySpace page. Thank you Jeff for taking the time and effort to be a part of this important search. We are all praying for some news and closure to this heartbreaking story.

For more on Glosslip’s coverage of this story, click here.

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Filed under: Casey Anthony, Caylee Anthony, Sadness

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As well as the searchers are on foot, are there cadaver dogs with some of these groups especially the areas that supposedly casey was cited and where her major cell pings were?

Comment by Marybeth — November 8, 2008 @ 10:31 pm

Well folks,
It’s Sunday and regrettably, we have to return to Indiana. We really did have high hopes that Caylee would have been found on Saturday. D & K, thank you for your support as well as all of the Glosslip bloggers. We wish the best of luck to the searchers who remain here today. It is unfortunate that there aren’t more local searchers. I know Tim had originally stated that “if Caylee was not found this weekend, then she is not here”. I don’t know if I agree with this statement after seeing what Noelle and I saw. The team leaders are doing the best they can to organize the searches but this in itself is very difficult. Most of the areas are swamp, brush, briars, cyprus knees etc. Only a small percentage of searchers are willing or able to explore these harsh terrains. Most stay roadside probing the bushes with walking sticks. Now it is understandable considering the difficulty in breaking through this vegetation (believe me, I can tell you first hand). It is not likely Casey was willing to do this either when dumping the body but the odds are high that animals would have dragged the remains further into the brush.
Some of our findings were animal bones and they were scattered everywhere. I don’t know if all of our findings have been tested as of yet and some of what we found was disturbing (AGAIN, WE DONT KNOW IF IT WAS HUMAN OR ANIMAL). I suspect we wont know until this case goes to trial.

Comment by Jeff — November 9, 2008 @ 9:52 am

Marybeth,
Some locals have volunteered their dogs. I am not sure if they are cadaver dogs but there are dogs present as well as horses, ATV’s, Airboats and Canoes.

Comment by Jeff — November 9, 2008 @ 9:58 am

Jeff, everyone thanks and admires both of you for your efforts. Sounds like terrain is very difficult.
I think Casey might have chanced going deeper into the woods – but as someone said they spotted an alligator when searching, the chances of finding Caylee seem very very slim. Tim Miller stated
that it would only be skeletal remains. It was
very hot there in June/July. Casey would have worn
shorts and short-sleeved blouses then. I wonder if
anyone noticed any marks or scratches on her arms
or legs at that time?

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 9, 2008 @ 1:08 pm

There is some news from a searcher that a hand-made
beaded cross was found on a tree. The cross is supposed to match something that Casey had. It was found near the water at Blanchard Park. Divers
are supposed to go in the water tomorrow morning.
This cross was supposedly hanging from a tree in the park. I find this very odd as the police pretty much
searched that area and I think it would have been found before unless it was placed there recently.
None of this confirmed – just reported by a searcher.
There will be another smaller search Monday morning
and then Tim Miller will leave. Its doubtful he will
be back. He has searched three times and I think
that is TES’s limit. Ill check back on this cross
story to see if there is further news, but again,
my belief is that this cross was placed their recently and doesnt have anything to do with
Caylee.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 9, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

Even if that cross did have something to do with Caylee, it might just be an uninvolved but interested party making a symbolic statement, even recently. People do that.

And even if it matched some beads that Casey has, if they were craft type beads, well, Michaels or Joanns sells oodles of ‘em.

Somehow Casey just doesn’t seem the type to me to put a marker on a murder she’s trying to cover up.

Comment by Karen — November 9, 2008 @ 7:33 pm

The more this goes on and no body found….. i just don’t know what to think anymore. Maybe little Caylee is alive. WESH reported that Cindy and George went to Gainesville (sp) to check on a lead of a live Caylee today. They won’t know until the morning they said because it was on surveillance and they couldn’t tell if it was her but that they would know in the morning.

Comment by Lou — November 9, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

Hey Folks!
Back in Indiana now, god what a long drive!! Just read up on todays events. Elaine, the cross found this weekend is tied to a memorial of a loved one that is unrelated to this case. This is actually the second cross discovered there. The 1st was found back in August and investigation revealed it was placed there for someone elses memorial. We had asked the same questions about Casey’s appearence ie..scratches etc. Nothing was noted by police on this but even if she did have scratches, they would have healed by the time police were notified about Caylee being missing. Most of the searchers agreed after experiencing the terrain that Casey would not be a likely candidate for a “deep penetration” into these wooded areas. What I do find interesting is the lack of official reports on our teams finds. Media keeps stating that equusearch specialists went back to our area but are being tight lipped about it. I will not report our findings but I do feel if anything there was relevant, you won’t know about it until the trial.
Once again, thank you all for your support. It does mean alot to Noelle and I.

Comment by Jeff — November 10, 2008 @ 4:56 am

Yes the cross seems to have been ruled out.Jeff that
is interesting about the holding back of information.
Lou, there is no way that Caylee isnt dead. There are so many missing people that never get found. She
weighed maybe 30 or 40 pounds, how in the world if
all there remains are bones to find her in that kind
of terrain in Florida. I think she went into the water. There was an alligator spotted by one of the searchers. The finding of no body just plays into
Cindy’s plans to keep pitching that Caylee is alive.
There is no evidence that Caylee is alive. There is
evidence that Caylee is dead. LE wouldnt have charged
her with capital murder (even though the penalty
isnt finalized whether they will try for life in prison or death). I think that LE has a lot more
than we know. It goes back to forensic evidence and
Casey’s activities after Caylee went missing. As she
had no money, and had to steal Amy’s to survive because she couldnt go back to her parents she didnt
“sell” Caylee. There was no babysitter. There was
evidence of a body in the trunk. George Anthony
in his testimony believed that Caylee was dead in the trunk. No, Caylee is dead. With all those thousands
of so called sightings and tips – nothing credible
has ever turned up.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 10, 2008 @ 11:33 am

Jeff, they are now stating that the cross that was found does have a link to Casey – it has some little
beads on it that matched some beads seen in Caseys
room. Are you sure that the blue cross with the
beads on it was definitely linked to someone else?

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 10, 2008 @ 11:55 am

The sighting in Gainesville Florida is nothing. The Anthonys looked at a video tape but it wasnt Caylee.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 10, 2008 @ 11:56 am

Elaine,
This was posted by David lohr on November 8th.
From what I understand, he had access to the mobile command center and privy to certain information.
Normally I would not post his statements due to my own personal feelings about this man but this is where I got my information about the beads.

It was a busy day today in the search for Casey Anthony’s missing daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Anthony. While we did not get the expected turnout – about 1,300 volunteers showed up – we were able to cover a lot of ground and clear over one third of the search grid.

Unfortunately, some things got a bit out of hand today when some volunteers leaked information on the Internet about some of the items that were found.

Earlier today, I attempted to clear up the details about the team of forensic students that made a find near Jay Blanchard Park. There was initially a bit of confusion over that because there were several finds made in the park today.

Some bones, which have since been identified as dog bones, were found near a lake. Another set of bones, found with what appeared to be internal organs, were also found; however it is my understanding that they are also believed to be animal bones.

At about the same time those items were found, the team of forensic students, along with another group of volunteers, found a pair of children’s underwear, a plastic bag with shoes, a rubber glove and a machete discarded in the weeds. I am being very specific about these items because one of the volunteers has already leaked the information on another message board.

I arrived on the scene shortly after the second find and I was there when the CSI’s came in to examine the items. To clarify what some other boards are reporting, the shoes were men’s – I think size 9 – and the children’s undergarments that were found were identified as boys underwear. The machete was rusty and appeared to have been in the weeds for some time. Last time we were in this area – during the Aug.-Sept. search – this particular area was under several feet of water. At any rate, none of the items are believed to be related to the case.

Meanwhile, there is a lot of chatter and rumors about a beaded cross necklace that was found in the woods. I have been aware of this find but was asked not to share the information. That information got leaked by a blogger on another site today and it has since been twisted into several different versions.

Yes, a cross was found hanging on a tree branch. No, it was not found today, it was found during the first search effort. The information has been carefully guarded because we were not sure of the significance of the find. It was not a store bought necklace, but a craft item that someone had made out of plastic and beads. What made the find interesting was that the beads, according to Leonard Padilla, were “identical” to beads that the female bounty hunter (the one who stayed in the house when Casey was out on bond) had seen on jewlery that Casey had allegedly made. Is it related to the case? Unknown. I saw a photo of the cross today but unfortunately that is the only thing they have. The cross was left on the branch and, according to Rob Dick, disappeared shortly thereafter.

My understanding is that a second cross was found today – I am not sure if it was a jewelry item or marker – but law enforcement has since discovered that it had been placed in the area by the family of a murder victim. It is unrelated to the case.

It is unfortunate that the cross information has been leaked. I had not planned on discussing it like this, but felt that it is necessary to clarify the information.

Comment by Jeff — November 10, 2008 @ 3:20 pm

Cindy on Camera Again

“There is NO reason for her to believe that Caylee is dead”????????????????????????????????

How long can she ignore the circumstancial evidence and facts that surround her granddaughters dissapearance? How sad regardless. This recent search only gives her the ability to hang on which I don’t blame her for doing so.

But how much longer can she give her daughter the benifit of the doubt? How much longer can she cry conspiracy?

There is ZERO proof that Caylee is DEAD (Cindy is right). There is also ZERO proof that she is alive also.

Comment by MS — November 10, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

On another note, alot of attention has been payed to the alligator populations of Florida and their part in the devouring of Caylees remains. Florida, as it turns out, seems to be the ideal dumping ground for a body but not because of the alligators. The odds are more in favor that if Caylee was dumped in the woods of Florida, that wild hogs, vultures, and insects indigenius to these areas would be responsible. I can speak first hand of the tracks all through these areas. Wild hogs are everywhere down there and they do scavenge meat. Vultures are also everywhere and were flying overhead (in the hundreds). The alligator spotted was only a four footer and will only stay in or very close to water. This leaves alot of ground for other feral animals.

Comment by Jeff — November 10, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

Jeff that is really interesting. Wild hogs can be really dangerous and also eat anything. I understand
that a searcher was told to look for bones the size
of a dime. Is that true and if so, how in the world
could you find something so small? Also today Padilla
had divers in the water but I dont think they came up with anything. Also the story on the beaded cross has
changed again – saying that the little girl Dakota
who was so involved with the Anthonys stated that Casey gave her a bracelet with the same beads which
Dakota subsequently threw out. This has to be taken
with a grain of sale as this little girl whose grandmother unfortunately let her become involved with the Anthonys had a nervous breakdown after her
grandmother became disenchanted with the Anthonys
and stopped letting her see them. I think that story
has to be suspect to this childs imagination.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 10, 2008 @ 3:52 pm

Elaine,
I remember reading about Dakota and I found the whole thing disturbing. Her grandmother really should have limited her closeness with this situation. All I know about the beads is what has been reported. We were told to look for anything, from bones (whole or partial) to clothing or out of place objects. The initial search orders were for us to check up to 15ft deep into the woods (from the road) but were changed last minute to up to 100ft from the road.
Our search area was on TM Ranch Road near Mary Jane Lake and was close to “Annies” house. Annie apparently was a friend of Casey’s and a cell phone call pinged to this area. Shortly after the ping, Casey contacted Jessie Grund and asked if she could use his shower. Back in August search (as previously reported) a childs backpack and bleach bottles were found in our search area. THIS IS NOT AN INFORMATION LEAK. IT IS PUBLIC INFO ALREADY AVAILABLE.

Comment by Jeff — November 10, 2008 @ 4:30 pm

Jeff do you think Caylee is buried there?

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 10, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

Elaine,
I honestly don’t know.
What we found disturbed both Noelle & I. I know this sounds encryptive and I am sorry. I don’t know the significance of our teams finds (if any) but the last thing in the world I want to do is leak info. We will all just have to wait and see what comes up in the trial. I’m sure you understand.

Comment by Jeff — November 10, 2008 @ 6:54 pm

Jeff I understand. You and Noelle did a great job
and are commended for “walking the walk” not just
talking about it. What did you think of Leonard
Padilla – did you see him?

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 10, 2008 @ 10:43 pm

Elaine,
We did not see Leonard Padilla thank god!! Can’t stand the guy! I think he is a glory hound with nothing to do but try and hike his own ratings. We did see alot of people donning the black cowboy hat and vest deal. I don’t think this is common apparel for orlando folk so you have to wonder why the costumes?? Thank you for your comments, they are appreciated. It just happened that Noelle and I had the free time and finances to do this. This is not our “norm” and at any other time, we would not have been able to help. We had a great vacation, saw relatives we had not seen in some time and was able to search.

Comment by Jeff — November 10, 2008 @ 11:35 pm

Jeff~
I know you cannot ethically leak information, and I commend you for not doing so, but I have to say that I am more than a little bit curious about what you and Noelle found.

Comment by glp — November 11, 2008 @ 10:54 am

glp,
I understand your curiosity. Our team has actually managed to not leak anything as of yet which I find amazing seeing there were some 30 people on it! Hopefully, this will remain that way until the trial. Once again, what we discovered may mean nothing at all. Who knows. It’s kind of funny because in the beginning, we had 2 news choppers 100ft overhead as well as a news camera man in the swamps with us! Part of the team had broken off to another area and thats when we found things! Camera guy and news choppers were gone at this point!

Comment by Jeff — November 11, 2008 @ 12:56 pm

Jeff~
You are killing me! Again, I am not suggesting or asking you to leak potentially valuable information… I just wish I could have been there. So I guess you won’t know if what you found is significant unless it is presented at trial, or unless someone leaks it and it gets addressed in the media? Would that be accurate?

Comment by glp — November 11, 2008 @ 5:03 pm

Jeff – who would testify at a trial if something you found was deemed evidence? The team leader?

Comment by Elaine16 — November 11, 2008 @ 5:12 pm

I’d imagine anything that would be used in a trial will end up in the news earlier as part of the discovery given to the defense and made public record.

Mind you, I don’t know all of these rules and it surprises me that it’s all online. I guess maybe all of discovery in the past has been public record but no news agency has bothered to put it all online before.

I’m not so sure it’s a good thing. I’m sure I’d think twice before given a recorded statement to an investigator.

Comment by Karen — November 11, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

This the reason why Jose Baez pushed for a gag order when he did. With a potential five thousand people searching the Orlando woods you have to assume several leaks would be published in the media as long as they “looked” damning. These leaks would play against the offense in the public eye whether they have anything to do with the case or not. In the event of a successful gag order any and all leaks would have played favorably for him.
GLP- those are the only two senarios I can think of that would make the result of our teams finds public.
Elaine- The only thing that we did including team leaders was flag potential evidence. After our find everybody was immediately ordered out of the woods in order to make way for scene investigation for Equusearch specialist and potentiallly Orlando law enforcement. So my assumption is Orlando LE would be the only one to testify on this evidence.

Comment by Jeff — November 11, 2008 @ 6:18 pm

#26 I meant to write….”these leaks would play against the defense in the public eye”

Comment by Jeff — November 11, 2008 @ 6:21 pm

Jeff thanks for that – yes that makes sense to me
about the LE bringing in forensic teams to handle
any flagged areas. I have never heard of this
releasing of information in any other case – maybe
we didnt pay attention before or maybe the case wasnt of the nature that anyone would be interested in hearing about it or maybe its just indemic to Florida laws.
Today Richard Grund had a small prayer meeting at the Little Econ River. I saw it on several websites. Richard Grund said something today that was I believe,
at least, a jab at Cindy. He said “no child is a
mistake”. Cindy had told Casey that Caylee
was the “worst and best mistake” she had ever made.
I guess I dont mean jab – maybe reproach is a better
word. Richard Grund should be mad at Cindy – Cindy
tried to throw Jessie under the bus in her police
interview calling him “dangerous” and Casey said
to stay away from him. To me, Jessie seemed like
a good guy. Richard is very religious and his
words were very well spoken today. Of course, Cindy
tried to turn this into another media circus as usual
threatening to have Padilla arrested. Cindy is the most controlling and least sympathetic person I have
ever seen. She is so combative and in your face and
she antagonizes people and stirs up really raw emotions that have not served her well at all. There
was a man with the Anthony’s yesterday he was extremely rude and out of line and also was swearing
at a cameraman. I found out he was with KidFinders.
I found that very odd that a person that is with an
organization that wants to find children could be
so nasty and try to use strong-arm tactics on reporters. It doesnt fit. Does anyone know anything
about this group KidFinders? They seem to have latched onto the Anthonys.

Comment by Elaine16 — November 11, 2008 @ 8:31 pm

VERY DISTURBING INFORMATION ON KIDFINDERS NETWORK:
KidFinders Network Dennis and Sherri Milstead are founders of KidFinders Network, a 501c3 charitable organization. They received their advanced ruling 501c3 certification from the IRS in 2006. On September 12 Ms. Milstead was copied on an email that had been originally sent to Lee Anthony, and she was copied on his reply to the potential donor without the donor’s permission. Lee Anthony directed the prospective donor to the various ways of donating to the trust, but instructed prospective donor to consider donating to KFN, as they continued to be so supportive of the Anthony family. Ms. Milstead proceeded to email the prospective donor, unsolicited, the 3 ways she could donate, which included her direction that the prospective donor could use the KFN PayPal account located on their site for BOTH KFN, and HFCMT. Notably, this occurred after the trust had been closed by the bank. As the prospective donor is a former banking executive within Sun Trust, the prospective donor became concerned and our investigation into KFN ensued. Mr. and Mrs. Milstead have an approximate combined outstanding fraud judgments for nearly $500,000. Mr. Milstead has a criminal record which includes a felony conviction 2002, probation violation and subsequent guilty plea in 2002, for IMPERSONATING A POLICE OFFICER. The researchers found that particularly disturbing as a “pseudo badge” is on the logo on the KFN home page. END

I really had a negative impression of this guy from
Kidfinders yesterday and it turns out this looks to be some kind of scam. These people have attached
themselves to the Anthonys, or maybe at least for
Cindy these are her kind of people! Disgusting.
Its very important to check people out before you donate money to any organization.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 11, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

Oh geez! Can this get any worse? The hangers on to this case reminds me of the entourage Michael Jackson had.

Comment by Karen — November 12, 2008 @ 1:53 am

http://monica111466.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/kidfinders-network-dennis-and-sherri-milstead/

Comment by Karen — November 12, 2008 @ 2:00 am

I emailed this information to Leonard Padilla =
maybe he can do something about these people!

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 12, 2008 @ 10:57 am

Its always drama with the Anthonys. Today they fired their spokesman Larry Garrison for allegedly pocketing
$6500.00 from NBC for photographs that they used. He
denies it – where would he get photographs? Nejame
says that they were “hurt beyond belief” – wow,
wait until they get a load of the criminal record
of their new best friends from KidFinders!

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 12, 2008 @ 5:06 pm

Well, the problem is, decent people would leave the Anthony’s alone or try to stay away from them with a 10 foot pole. It’s the vultures of our society who would even go near them and they have.

Franky, I surprised Larry Flint didn’t call up and ask Casey if she wanted to make a movie while in home detention.

Comment by Karen — November 12, 2008 @ 9:48 pm

Karen, maybe we will hear from Larry Flint yet! Padilla is going to back to search at little Econ Park again tomorrow.
I thought he was leaving. That guy from Kidfinders
the one with the fraud charges and criminal record
who cussed out a cameraman on Monday went back to the park today and took all the flowers and teddy bears left there after the prayer service they had
yesterday. I suppose this was on Cindy’s orders.
Sheesh these people. Cindy is not a very good judge
of character is she? Speaking of that – its rather
a mystery as to how Casey came to use Jose Baez as
her attorney. The Anthonys had no knowledge of him
until he took the case and Casey said a “friend”
recommended him. However, none of her friends saw
her after she was arrested. Has anyone any information on how Casey came to use Baez?

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 12, 2008 @ 11:07 pm

There was a news report at the beginning of all this that said a fellow inmate gave her the referral but I’m not sure how likely this is since I thought she was kept away from the main prison population early on.

Comment by Karen — November 12, 2008 @ 11:53 pm

thanks Karen, its curious that she used Baez. George
Anthony stated his dislike and distrust of Baez.
I just wondered how she hooked up with him. Another
Casey “mystery”. You wouldnt think a 22 year old
would have such a deep secret life would you. Very
scary stuff.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 13, 2008 @ 11:09 am

I dont want to get everyone’s hopes up, but I think they found the body just now. Hopefully, there will be more news later today.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

I guess I should say remains. Nothing has been confirmed, but LP and the crew have pulled something out of the water. Sniffles could be heard, but they cannot comment on it at this time.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 2:57 pm

Blanchard Park is now a crime scene. Tune into local stations if able. I of course, am not local.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

Lee has been reportedly driving by as they searched the area. I say the family knew all along.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 3:03 pm

God Bless you, sweet little Caylee.

May she rest in peace.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 3:32 pm

God be with you, precious little Caylee.

Comment by glp — November 13, 2008 @ 3:44 pm

WoW! I hope they found her little body! I am not local either. Where did you here this information from??

Comment by Anniray — November 13, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

Murk on the road (live cam–www.ustream.tv/channel/murtontheroad

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

Sharebear,
From what I heard, they found bones and toys in a bag weighed down by a brick. One of these toy’s was a plastic shamrock. It kind of sounds like a dog burial to me.

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 4:01 pm

Some are saying that, but I have my doubts. Although, some say it may not be Caylee, even if it is human. Supposedly, it easy to differentiate between human and dog bones, but of course confirmation will be needed.

There are other missing children in the Orlando area, such as Trenton Duckett. I guess we will find out soon. If it is a child perhaps it will be closure for someone.

Interestingly enough, Casey had a thing for Shamrocks.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 4:07 pm

The significant thing might be the shamrock -I understand that there was a shamrock on
Caseys car. Has anyone else heard this about the
shamrock on Caseys’ car?

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 13, 2008 @ 4:12 pm

If that’s the case, it doesn’t sound good.

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 4:22 pm

Yes, she also has a shamrock tatoo, if what I have heard is correct.

However, the people on ustream are saying LE is saying this is not Caylee, so I don’t know what to think. I wish they could find her and end Cindy’s Hoax to protect her daughter. Cindy is reporting another ridiculous siting, of course.

There has also been discovered another bag with stuffed animals. perhaps the ones they threw out at the beginning of this case, because they smelled like smoke.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

fox news reports “fingers and toes” were in one of the bags.

Comment by Karen — November 13, 2008 @ 4:35 pm

well, now the news is, no human remains, not a crime scene

Comment by Karen — November 13, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

Good Lord!! What is going on here?? Padilla reports his divers found human remains and toys held undewater by bricks. Orlando PD says no human remains found in bags. Padilla claims confirmed by FBI. Orlando PD wants Padilla to take a lie detector test!!! Just when you think this case could not get any stranger!!

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

I know this absolutley absurd. I think LE is uptight because they were not on the scene and also that they did not find it.

I do not think anything can be ruled one way or the other that quickly. Seems a bit suspicious, but I don’t understand why.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

Oh this is crazy…ya gotta read this!!
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7857222&version=10&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 5:08 pm

At present, my understanding is that No remains have been found. PD is suspicious of Padilla and his relentless search of this area!

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 5:09 pm

This is a very odd case.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 5:12 pm

Actually the polygraph to me sounds significant. Why have a polygraph over a bag of toys. Not that I think much of the bounty hunter. And what would be the purpose of fake non-caylee toes and fingers. DNA would soon confirm or deny the match. Yes, very weird. I think Larry Flint must be due on the scene very soon. He’s the only one missing so far.

Comment by Karen — November 13, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

What I know is PD is upset because Padilla notified the media before contacting PD. Tim Miller has felt Padilla’s actions have been nothing but hype for media attention. I truthfully think this is a bogus find and it appears PD feels the same. PD would like nothing more than for ANYONE to find Caylee. They seem to have an issue with Padilla and all of his back and forth actions in this case. Last report was Padilla in squad car but has not left the scene yet.

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 5:26 pm

The media was already present (murt on the road). I was watching via web cam prior to the finding. The media was never called. They did call LE, it took some time for them to get there, but they were called.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 5:32 pm

I really have to question the police here. The evidence should be submitted for forensic testing and I am not sure they even collected the evidence. The Police seem a bit disgruntled and I am not sure we are getting all the facts. LP agreed to the polygraph.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

I guess forensics are looking at the findings at the scene.

Comment by sharebear — November 13, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

This is really weird Padilla will be on headline news shortly. I think the police believe that LP planted
the bag thats why they want him to take a polygraph
and he has agreed. Someone said Padilla when talking
about the search this morning before it got started
was crying. The Sheriffs office seems serious pissed
off at Padilla. I dont know why – unless they suspect
that hes planting evidence. Cindy is onto another
“tip” this time from Coral Springs McDonalds. Cindy
is out of her mind, her face was absolutely frozen
when talking about this find before we got more information. It was almost like she was AFRAID it
was Caylee. This is not a woman who wants her granddaughter found.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 13, 2008 @ 6:09 pm

Ok..now after reading this statement, I wonder if there is something to this “padilla planting evidence” thing.

Padilla said the discovery of a shamrock in the bag is significant, because Casey Anthony had many shamrocks in her life. He said she has a shamrock tattoo and a shamrock sticker on her car.

Previously released photos of Casey Anthony show the shamrock tattoo on her back and wearing a shamrock necklace.

The search was organized by Padilla, who sent nearly 40 divers back into the water to search for the missing toddler. Thursday’s search is much larger than Monday’s.

Padilla said he focused on the park and river because a cross was found nearby that Padilla said contained decorative beads like those in Anthony’s home.

So Padilla says on Monday he is done searching for Caylee. Three days later he sends twice as many divers in and comes up with this “evidence”?
Now I don’t think its any secret here that I cannot stand this guy so maybe my feelings are biased but……. This whole situation has done alot to hurt his reputation. Maybe he did plant evidence with the hopes of vindicating himself in the publics eyes?

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 8:05 pm

I mean, the whole cross with beads thing. LE has already investigated this and confirmed the cross with beads were left there by another family mourning their own loss. I don’t get Padilla’s feelings as to why he thinks Caylee is there in the first place.

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 8:08 pm

LMAO!! Maybe Nancy Grace put him up to it!!!!

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 8:17 pm

The bag only contained sticks and the shamrock turned out to be a gumby doll! Maybe Padilla thought Gumby’s misshapen head looked like the top of a shamrock!
I dont think he planted anything because there wasnt
anything in the bag but some sticks and a few old toys. Well at least he is looking. TES has pulled
out and the sheriffs department isnt looking either.
Now this Michele Bart from Kidfinders seems to have latched onto Cindy. There was another “tip” saying
that a child at a McDonalds looked like Caylee in Coral Springs. Come on people, a McDonalds for heaven sake. Also this Ms. Bart says now they will have a news conference telling everyone why they believe
Caylee is alive, that ought to be good. This same
KidFinders is the group founded by a convicted felon
Dennis Milstead who impersonated a police officer and
has charges up to $500K of fraud against him. Cindy
is a magnet for these scam artists who will tell her what she wants to hear. Then when she finds out about them she becomes “disappointed”. Time is their
enemy – they can do look from one part of this planet
to the other but Caylee isnt coming home.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 13, 2008 @ 8:40 pm

Gumby?? Lol!! That wacky bounty hunter!!

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

Lol!! I did a little photo edit on my myspace. Just a little humor. Check out Search pics! Again, just a little humor.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=238972100

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 10:00 pm

Jeff thats really very funny, I have to admit it!
I guess if you count Gumby’s legs and arms sticking
out it kind of looks like a weirdly shaped shamrock.
Anyway, Padilla says he will take the polygraph any time any place unlike the Anthonys. The Coral Springs
sighting of Caylee has been discounted. So what else is new. It was said that Casey Anthony was out of her
cell watching TV when this news broke and she watched
for a while and then calmly walked back to her cell.
I guess she knew Caylee’s body wasnt in that river.
Well, we will now hear this Michelle Bart another spokeswoman for KidFinders (you know the one where
the guy who runs in Dennis Milstead has a felony
conviction) and she will be on with Cindy on NG tomorrow night – should be interesting as they are now
going to tell the world why Caylee is really alive.
What have they been waiting for all these five months
I wonder. I wish they would throw all of them in jail, I really do.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 13, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

Padilla was on Nancy Grace tonight and he said that the only reason he stayed to continue searching was because those black water divers told him they would volunteer to search. He was planning on having left town already so Jeff, i don’t think he planted any evidence or planned anything either.

Comment by Lou — November 13, 2008 @ 11:29 pm

Sharebear or anyone else on here, do you all have thqt link for Murt. I’d like to be able to watch the search coverage tomorrow.

Comment by Lou — November 13, 2008 @ 11:34 pm

Lou. I don’t think he planted anything either. I would find it hard to believe he would plant a Gumby!!!

Comment by Jeff — November 13, 2008 @ 11:38 pm

Why did Tim Miller become so territorial and out of character?

Cindy Anthony has been disrespectful to Tim always and he never broke form. Padilla treats Tim like the professional that he is always and Tim goes off on LP?

If LP wants to search why not Tim? You pulled up stakes he chooses not to.

This Case gets goofier & goofier every day.

Comment by MS — November 13, 2008 @ 11:42 pm

Yes, i remember the weeks leading up to the “biggest search in history” Tim said he wouldn’t leave until Caylee was found and then just after 3 full days he leaves because someone in one of the Carolinas donated $30,000 for him to go search there. It appears to me that Tim is the one that follows the money.

Comment by Lou — November 13, 2008 @ 11:52 pm

With all due respect folks, you are stating the opposite from the truth. Tim Miller did what he could. He took Equusearch (a donation funded company) $100,000 in debt searching for Caylee. His services are needed by lots of people and it would be wrong for him to spend all donated funds on just one person. LP makes money for searching. The more publicity he gets, the more funding he gets. I honestly feel Tim Miller truly wanted to find Caylee. I am suspect of LP’s motives.

Comment by Jeff — November 14, 2008 @ 12:30 am

In case anyone is interested….. George and Cindy Anthony are speaking out on Nancy Grace tomorrow night.

Comment by Lou — November 14, 2008 @ 1:12 am

Lou,

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murt-ono-the-road

Comment by sharebear — November 14, 2008 @ 10:11 am

Correction:……murt-on-the-road (I accidentally put an extra o in there)

Comment by sharebear — November 14, 2008 @ 10:12 am

Lou I found it at murtwitnessone.com
Search continues today

Here is more on the story that Tony Pipitone
who is investigation for Local 6 news has on
Casey’s whereabouts. It seems to me there is a lot
of “dead” times she cannot be tracked – is it
logical to assume she would go to the park? It seems
like such an open area – and she could be seen easily.
Jeff you would know more about that. Could a woman
go there at night with a bag and throw something in the water and not be seen? I’m now of the opinion
she drove out of Orlando and dumped the body elsewhere. If you follow the times below its possible.

Joe Pipitones investigation follows:
Local 6 News investigative reporter Tony Pipitone analyzed hundreds of text messages and phone calls placed and received by Anthony in the two weeks after Caylee disappeared and used a database program to determine how much time passed between each ping.

There were 24 times when three or more hours passed with Anthony’s phone remaining silent, Pipitone reported.
“And when you account for sleep and periods where she appeared to stay in the same place, we are left with three gaps — or dead zones — that raise some questions,” Pipitone said.

The first “dead zone” was June 17 from 5:23 p.m. to 8:23 p.m. Anthony’s phone pinged a tower close to her boyfriend’s apartment near the University of Central Florida and then twice pinged a tower near Blanchard Park before going silent. The park was searched but nothing was found. In the time it took Anthony’s phone to ping another tower — three hours later — she could have traveled as far away as Palm Bay or Ormond Beach and returned to Orange County.

June 17 was a day after Caylee was seen alive by her grandfather, George Anthony, who said his daughter and Caylee left his home at about 12:50 p.m. the day before.

Scientific evidence suggests that human remains that decomposed in the trunk of Anthony’s car was there for up to 2½ days after death, Pipitone said. That would mean if Caylee died on June 16, investigators may want to focus more on June 18 into June 19, which contained two dead zones on her cell phone, he reported.

On June 18, Anthony’s phone went silent at 6:57 p.m. and did not ping another tower until 8:32 a.m. June 19. In both cases, her phone pinged a tower near her boyfriend’s apartment. Her whereabouts during that time is not known.

On June 19, Anthony’s phone pinged near her boyfriend’s apartment at 4:54 p.m., then her movements head south and east, according to cell phone pings, Pipitone said. “Heading east and hitting (a) cell tower on Lake Underhill Road … but from here, her cell phone goes dead for three hours and 17 minutes. Where could she have gone in that time?” Pipitone said.
The last ping from the Lake Underhill tower was at 5:45 p.m., and the phone then went silent until a ping near her boyfriend’s apartment. She then called her parents’ home at 9:13 p.m., and there’s no indication where Anthony was during the time frame.

“If this is the time Casey may have disposed of the body in her car trunk, there’s no indication where Caylee may be either,” Pipitone said.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 14, 2008 @ 11:01 am

Reading the above June 18th seems like a date that
should be looked at. I think Casey borrowed the
shovel on June 18th. Also did she spend the night
at Tonys? From 7pm until 8:30 am the next morning
no activity. This from someone who averages 52
calls or texts a day. If she was at Tonys during that
time its explained, if she wasnt that might expain it.
One thing no one has mentioned – the ODOMETER on her
car. If she just made local trips it wouldnt register
much (assuming they know how many miles were on the
car from the time this all started) if she had put
a lot of miles on the car it could be an indication
of where she went. George might know that – he apparently kept very good care of the cars, being
a former car dealership owner.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 14, 2008 @ 11:08 am

I have mentoned this on 2-3 occasions when posting over the last 4 months.

Baez again mentioned yesterday the girl on his team that was with Casey during the home arrest. She stated that the beads / cross found near the park were the same that Casey made comment on making for her personal jewelry.

My comments have been on this lady in Padillas group…

It was said earlier that she was seeking immunity for things she knew from spending time with Casey? Nothing since has been spoken of.

Comment by MS — November 14, 2008 @ 12:27 pm

Elaine,
1st off, we need to assume (if Casey dumped the body) Casey did not make any calls near the area she dumped the body. Try to imagine yourself in such a scenario. You want to do it quick, and then get out of dodge. No hanging around to make a call. I would imagine that shortly after dumping, she would call someone that tends to comfort her (assuming she is any kind of a human being….I know thats a stretch!). I would focus my areas around 10 square miles of the “odd ping locations”. As far as Blanchard park, or Blanchard park YMCA goes, her cell phone pings are all during normal operating hours of this large facility. Even after hours, the parking lot serves as a truck stop. I don’t think this is a logical dumping area. I’d imagine she drove around quite a bit looking for an area that would fit her needs. This could account for the “odd cell pings”. We will never be able to account for all of her travels and this is why such a search is so difficult. Florida has hundreds of thousands of areas that a body could be dumped and never found.

Comment by Jeff — November 14, 2008 @ 2:02 pm

I will try to keep checking in here as often as possible. Noelle and I are leaving for Maryland/Washington D.C. tomorrow night and then off to Rhode Island for a few weeks. (My boy turns 12!!!).
Just not sure when and where I will have internet service.

Comment by Jeff — November 14, 2008 @ 2:06 pm

Jeff and Noelle have a nice trip and thanks for the info. I dont watch Fox but I did see this on another chat site. John Walsh from American’s most wanted
commented on the Casey Anthony case last night.
Here is what I read:
I watched Hannity and Colmes last night and they had John Walsh from America’s Most Wanted on. He came on to talk about cases that have taken to long to be solved because of a lack of a DNA national database. Before the interview was over Sean Hannity remarked about how John’s gut feeling on a case was always right and asked him how he does that. John told him he had been doing this so long. Then he said like the high profile case of Caylee Anthony, she was dead the day she went missing. There is no body left to be found at this point, but her mother is a very dangerous sociopathic killer and she must be kept locked up. Anyone with any sense knows what happened, we just don’t know exactly how. End Statement

Well since John Walsh has done this type of thing
for 20 years and his opinion along with so many others
in this field agree that Casey killed Caylee and
it was premeditated, and that she is a sociopath,
then I believe that even with no body
ever found, that Casey Anthony could very well get
the death penalty if the State decides to go for it.
To MS I too read many times that Padilla said that
the woman he had in the house after he bonded out
Casey knows a lot of things she cannot say. I dont
know if she was deposed or not, maybe thats why
they cannot talk about it. I think there will be tons
of things we dont know about that will come out at
trial. One thing I do know, everyone that has come
in contact with this case and specifically Cindy
Anthony has been tainted by this case and I dont mean
in a good way. Even Tim Miller, who had a stellar
reputation before this is now criticized for his actions along with Padilla, Baez, Nejame, Larry Garrison, NG, Marc Klass etc. Some have been criticized fairly others have not. There is something
particularly toxic about Casey and Cindy in particular. The coldness that has taken over Cindy
after her initial call to the police and her complete
change of mind is really indicative of the fact that
in no way does she want Caylee found. John Walsh
recognizes a sociopath when he sees one and he thinks
Casey is extremely dangerous. The pictures on video
of Casey cashing the check at the bank have always
disturbed me. That look on her face, its frightening.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 14, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

Well, uhm… not much I can say to that one (Elaine). I have always respected John Walsh and his opinions as well as his actions. If he feels strongly that Casey is a murdering sociopath, I can’t argue that. This is an extremely bizarre case and I almost shudder to think of what details may come out during the trial. It’s just an awful shame that people like John Walsh must relive their tragedy every time some lunatic decides to exercise their twisted ways. There will be no peace for the innocent. We can only hope for some kind of Karma.

Comment by Jeff — November 14, 2008 @ 2:53 pm

Let’s think that Casey was not smart enough to account for phone pings. If so, she would have stayed away from her phone entirely. The phone was possibly shut off when doing the diry work IMHO.

Like Casey said per her gut… “Caylee is Near”

Comment by MS — November 14, 2008 @ 3:15 pm

The lack of pings can also be explain by a battery being dead. Lots of people, like me, aren’t great at keeping cell phones charged 100% of the time.

Comment by Karen — November 14, 2008 @ 3:37 pm

Just when you thought this case couldnt get any crazier Casey Anthony has filed a counter suit against… are you ready for this.. Zenaida
Gonzalez – saying she is trying to cash in on the case. I cannot believe this. If Baez filed this
lawsuit he must be the most incompetent attorney that
ever lived. I understand that filing a counter suit is pretty standard in a lot of cases, but for
Baez to file a counter suit against Gonzalez while
his client is sitting in jail accused of capital
murder is insane. I wonder who Baez will try to sue
next? Also Padilla today ran by his new theory of
what happened to Caylee. Going on the premise of
what John Walsh from Americas most wanted said about
Caylee being dead the first day (June 16th)Padilla
now believes that Casey left Caylee in the trunk of her car for 2 days and brought Caylee to her parents house on June 18th the day she borrowed the shovel. She backed her car into the driveway and then borrowed the neighbors shovel and put Caylee in the pool. She wanted to see if the body would sink. She used the shovel to get Caylee out of the pool and also used the shovel to break into the shed to get
gas cans. Caylee had been wrapped in some
kind of plastic bag. She then places Caylee back into the trunk and leaves. The body stays in the trunk.On June 24th she goes back to her house and her father wants to get into her trunk. She doesnt let him and instead gets the stolen cans out before he can see in the trunk. Sometime on June 25 is when Padilla believe she gets rid of the body by dumping it at Blanchard Park. When she went to move the body, the bag broke leaking fluid into the trunk and she got some on her clothes as well. Up until this time the car didnt smell as badly as it would eventually
he theorizes because the bag was sealed. However, as some of the fluid stayed in the trunk from the torn
bag the smell got worse as it was left in the sun
out at Amscot after Casey ran out of gas. She changed her clothing and threw them into the back of the trunk. Thats about the gist of his theory. Im not
sure about this pool business. All this about the pool started when the Anthonys noticed that the pool
ladder had been left against the pool something that
they never left there when not in use, for fear that Caylee might try to climb into it. Since that fact
came out everyone has tried to fit the pool somehow into different scenarios. Padilla believes Caylee
is in the water at Blanchard Park because Casey mentions it so many times. He says that if Caylees
body were found, then Casey could say Zenaida killed
her at the park and dumped her body in the water.
Makes sense – I guess if you are Casey.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 14, 2008 @ 8:55 pm

It was announced on NG last night that George and Cindy were suppose to appear on tonight’s show. I tuned in just to see what they were going to say and now there is no mention of them appearing at all….Does anyone know what happened? I find it odd that NG did not even mention why they are not appearing after they announced their appearance on last nights show. Seems like something Nancy would jump all over…..just seems weird to me.

Comment by Kimi — November 14, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

Good question Kimi – I too tuned in to hear Cindy and George – its now reported Cindy is writing a book – boy what took her so long? Maybe she doenst want
to talk about the case any longer – she is going to save it so we will all go out and spend $20.00 to read
her lies in writing this time. I dont think
so. Funny Nancy Grace did not utter one word about
their not being on the show along with Michele Bart.
Maybe they found out about what a scam Kidfinders is.
Leonard Padilla is not allowed back at Blanchard Park
at least not over the weekend. My next question is whether Dr Henry Lee who used to have a good reputation is going to sully it further by testifying
that there was no dead body in the trunk as he is obviously being paid by the the defense. And they call Leonard Padilla a media whore! There seems to be plenty of them to go around in this case.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 15, 2008 @ 1:35 am

Kimi,

I too tuned in just 4 that and was baffled that Grace did not provide explanation to the viewers??????

Comment by MS — November 15, 2008 @ 1:59 am

I am really starting to worry that casey is going to walk free of this crime. We all know she did it of that there is no doubt. The big question is WHERE is Baez getting all this money to pay for all these so called experts?

Comment by Lou — November 15, 2008 @ 11:52 am

Today the Anthonys are asking people to donate to
their new “best friends” the people at Kidfinders.
Here is what I found out through public records
about Dennis Milstead the founder and director
of Kidfinders:
501999MM013154AXXXMB MILSTEAD, DENNIS DEFENDANT 26-MAY-99 Z6564280 MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
502007DR007764XXXXMB JOHN Z SHWINER V DENNIS WILLIAM MILSTEAD RESPONDENT 22-JUN-07 Z6564280
502002MM007101AXXXMB MILSTEAD, DENNIS DEFENDANT 22-MAR-02 Z6564280 MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
502002CF002169AXXXMB MILSTEAD, DENNIS DEFENDANT 21-FEB-02 P1262668 MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
501995CC006517XXCVRL FORD MOTOR CREDIT COMPA V DENNIS W MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 25-APR-95 @1545508
502008CA031103XXXXMB BERNARD ROSENBLOOM V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 08-OCT-08 P1590389
502003DR001591XXRVFB KIMBERLY BARKEY V DENNIS MILSTEAD RESPONDENT 16-MAY-03 P1590389
501998CC003567XXCVRB CIRCLE K CONSTRUCTION C V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 26-FEB-98 P1590389
502003SC001732XXSMRH FIRESIDE DISTRIBUTORS I V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 23-JAN-03 P1043769
501993SC008239XXSMRE 60 MINUTE AUTO TINT V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 24-MAY-93 P1043769
501996SC009057XXSMRJ JERRY LEE TAYLOR V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 30-MAY-96 P1255685
501995SC005242XXSMRJ WILL GHIOTO INDEPENDENT V SHERRI MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 31-MAR-95 @175023
502003CC028214XXCVRD SANSONE V MILSTEAD ET AL COUNTER DEFENDANT 12-NOV-03 @175023
502003CC028214XXCVRD SANSONE V MILSTEAD ET AL CROSS DEFENDANT 12-NOV-03 @175023
502003CC028214XXCVRD SANSONE V MILSTEAD ET AL CROSS CLAIMANT 12-NOV-03 @175023
502003CC028214XXCVRD SANSONE V MILSTEAD ET AL 3RD PARTY DEFENDANT 12-NOV-03 @207862
502004CC002795XXXXMB D MILSTEAD V PALM BEACH COUNTY PLAINTIFF 05-MAR-04 P1182772
501994CC011820XXCVRL EVER READY SOD SERVICE V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 26-JUL-94 P1192332
501997SC007764XXSMRB JERRY LEE TAYLOR V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 06-MAY-97 P1192332
501994CC013811XXCVRF FLORIDA SEED CO INC V DENNIS MILSTEAD DEFENDANT 29-AUG-94
502002CA013850XXOCAE FORD MOTOR CREDIT COMPA V AG-LAND GRASSING CORP DENNIS MILSTEAD DEF 19 NOV 2002
502003CA000943XXCDAJ LIGHTNING ELECTRIC INC V DENNIS MILSTEAD 27 jAN 03 P2185342
502008SC003298XXXXMB FEUER V MILSTEAD @1264061
501999CA011911XXCDAB SHERRI MILSTEAD V OMEGA CONTRACTING INC P1802684
502000CA010752XXCDAN SEC COMMERCIAL REALTY G V AMERICAN GRAPHICS & SIG P1802684
501997CA011555XXRFAW FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGA V DENNIS MILSTEAD P1570280
502002CA015319XXOCAJ JEFFREY BARKER V WILLIAM MILSTEAD P2197493

One of his charges is for impersonating an officer, another is for Domestic violence towards John Shwiner the President of Crime Stoppers Palm beach

He has quite a record hasnt he? Its one thing for
the Anthonys to believe Caylee is alive (which I
dont believe for a second) its another thing for
them to once again be duped by people looking to make
money off of them, and ask other good-hearted well
intentioned individuals to do the same.
These people need to be exposed for what they
are – KidFinders looks to me to be some kind of scam.

Lou, there is no way that Casey will get out of this.
She will be found guilty. The Anthony and their tips
are just smoke screens – Caylee is dead and the
State can prove it.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 15, 2008 @ 2:00 pm

I started watching an interview with Jose Baez on CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/11/15/in.session.anthony.attorney.cnn?iref=videosearch

Honestly, I couldn’t get through it. No one but a lawyer would say, my client has reasons for her behaviour and I’ve advised her it’s in her best interests not to speak, then turn around and criticize the police for not doing enough to help find an alive Caylee.

So many lawyers have no sense of morality or credibility or if they have it, they leave it at home before they go to work. They are a club unto their own.

Comment by Karen — November 15, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

I was reading at Local6.com that in 2003 a judge ruled that the self-proclaimed “legendary” forensic scientist Henry Lee either hid or destoyed key evidence in a murder trial. these are the kinds of things that really bother me about Baez bringing all the forensic scientist in. How is he paying for this stuff. Could Baez get him to do the same kinds of things in this case?

Comment by Lou — November 15, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

Someone is paying for all this – could it be Baez
himself? The publicity this case is bringing him is enormous. Interestingly we havent heard from the other attorney at all except that one motion he filed
to try to not have death penalty for Casey. He is the
experienced one in all this but not a word from him.
I cannot stand to listen to Baez either -but he can talk all he wants to, he’s not going to save Casey.
Dr Lee tarnished his reputation in the Phil Spector
case out here in California. I havent heard one word
out of him since that case was declared a mistrial.
I think he was keeping a low profile. There is absolutely no way that Dr Lee or anyone else can
testify that it isnt human decomposition that they
are all smelling from that car. A dead body was in
side that trunk and thats going to hang Casey.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 15, 2008 @ 5:35 pm

After listening to Baez I hate his spin!

Casey has turned this case into the “circus” with her lies, poor choices, bizarre behavior and lies again. Cindy Anthony has thrown fuel on the fire with her bizarre behavior, accusations and conspiracy theories.

The public is outraged by the simple facts surrounding the (let’s say it) “death” of Caylee! The media is providing information to our demands!

Baez has NO, let me say it again NO reasonable defense! Thus his spin! Calling public information “leaks” is not going to get him far! His attempt at assembling a second “Dream-Team” ain’t gonna work.

BTW, I live out west and 95% of the people I talk to locally or nationally have NO clue who Casey Anthony is. Bring the trial NE Where in the US and she will loose. Mark my words, Baez will try 4 a mistrial or plea insanity.

He could plea insanity now but why step out of the spotlight when you can do this in January?

Comment by MS — November 15, 2008 @ 9:23 pm

Elaine,
The one thing that could throw a wrench into the “decomp in trunk” is the lack of fluorides. I’m quite certain Lee Henry will jump all over this. In all documented cases of human body decomposition, fluorides are detected. It is a “man made natural reaction” if you will. Humans drink fluorinated water. Our body’s retain the fluorides and release them during decompostion. They could not detect any fluorides in the air samples from Casey’s trunk. Now it is possible at Caylee’s young age that she may not release fluorides but from what I understand, decomp tests have not been performed on such young children.

Comment by Jeff — November 15, 2008 @ 11:03 pm

I would expect that “expert testimony” from the defense, could get this air sample tossed out.

Comment by Jeff — November 15, 2008 @ 11:05 pm

MS,
I don’t think we will see a insanity plea unless they find Caylee dead.

Comment by Jeff — November 15, 2008 @ 11:20 pm

Now I’ve read on alot of other blogs that the lack of fluorides indicates that it was a child in the trunk.
This is nonsense. There is not enough data to support such a conclusion and this would be considered speculation at best. They have some indications of decomposition of “some” nature. I think the prosecution realizes this and will put forward this evidence, but not try to slam dunk it.

Comment by Jeff — November 15, 2008 @ 11:25 pm

Jeff even if they throw ALL the forensics out
of this case, the circumstances will still convict
her. Caylee has been missed for 5 months and we know
she is dead and not coming back. The circumstances
of her disappearance, even without forensic evidence
still point to her mother, the last person who she
was with and her caretaker, as the doer. There is no one else. The fact that Caylee as a child could not
leave of her own accord is the major contention.Therefore as the mother has lied to the police which is a crime in itself and continues to lie
or not provide any information at all still leads
to the only conclusion that her mother has killed her.
Baez can come up with every kind of story he wants
but a jury is NEVER going to believe it. Even
if 75 percent of the forensics are thrown out, you still have George Anthonys sworn statement that as a former cop he knew it was human decomposition as to the smell as well as the police officers who
also will testify to that is what it was, plus
the cadaver dogs. You dont need stains, or DNA or
anything else. Just that little bit of forensics
coupled with Casey’s behavior and lack of a CREDIBLE
reason for Caylee to be anywhere else. I think we
all get hung up on stuff we see on TV. It isnt what
we think as far as the decision to convict her. It
isnt really beyond a “shadow of a doubt”. Its more
a composite case that the State will make showing
that nothing else is possible. There isnt one person
who can give us a credible reason for Caylee to be gone. Remember, Casey never reported her missing
nor ever spoke about her being missing. Experts like
John Walsh and Marc Klass pegged her immediately for what she was as did the police. You have to know that
these experts deal with this kind of thing all the time and they know. Casey will get convicted, there is absolutely no doubt of it. I think we put too much onto the forensics people have been convicted for much less. And it is true as to the fluorides, that
as Caylee was so little that fluorides might not
register. For every “expert” witness one side brings
in, the other side will counter with their own expert. I dont believe that they will have any evidence thrown out, but again, Caseys behavior,
her text messages, her own words, her own behavior
are enough to convict her.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 16, 2008 @ 1:36 am

Below is Joe Pipitones further investigation into
this case – as you can see from reading below
Casey was more interested in partying than taking
care of Caylee. From the minute Casey would get up
in the morning, she would start her texting and calls.
Most mothers get up in the morning and go into to take
care of their children. At least most responsible mothers I know. Of course, Casey had Cindy to do that for her most of the time
Article below:

ORLANDO, Fla. — A Local 6 News investigation into the timeline of the Casey Anthony case has revealed how the 22-year-old mother’s well-documented partying was restricted by the needs of her daughter, Caylee, who has been missing since June
Anthony remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in 3-year-old Caylee’s disappearance.

Local 6 News reporter Tony Pipitone said records show Anthony’s partying was constrained by what she called “mommy duties,” especially in the month of May.

On May 3 at 4:21 p.m., Anthony and then best friend Amy Huizenga made plans to attend a party.
“Any more details on that party?” Anthony asked.

But about two hours later, Anthony sent Huizenga a text message reading, “Cross your fingers that my parents get back soon. God I need this tonight.”

“But apparently, her daughter, Caylee, needed her more,” Pipitone said.

Two hours later, Anthony sent another message.

“I’m trying to get a hold of my mom to see when they’re coming home. Sitting around waiting sucks,” Anthony said.

Three hours after that, Anthony gave up on her party plans, telling Huizenga that she would take a rain check.

“Downtown tomorrow? My mom owes me,” Anthony sent in a text message.

About a week later, a boyfriend sent a message about his regret over Anthony being absent from the party scene.

“Thought you were coming out last night,” it said.

“Yeah, so did I,” Anthony replied. “Mommy duties.”

On May 23 at 7:48 p.m., Anthony told Huizenga, “I’m going to stay home,” promising to go out the next night. “I already cleared it with my madre.”

Anthony attended a party that weekend, which combined with her daughter’s disappearance, gained her national notoriety, Pipitone said.

On May 24, Anthony sent Huizenga a text that said, “The cops came around 1:15 and broke up the party.”

The next night, Anthony attended an “anything-but-clothes” party and sent another message to Huizenga.

“You will officially see the American flag in all its glory tonight,” Anthony’s message said.

Anthony also attended a Friday night hip-hop party at the Fusion nightclub, telling a former boyfriend on June 13, “You guys should definitely come. $5 cover, super hot shot girls, a hot body contest.”

Three days later, Anthony moved in with Tony Lazzaro, who ran shows at the nightclub, where infamous photographs of Anthony were taken on June 21.

“Casey and friends vamp and dance the night away. Not a care in the world. Even as police suspect Caylee was by then dead and her body possibly disposed of just days earlier,” Pipitone said. END

The above is exactly what I mean, its all these little
threads that will be woven into a tapestry that will
show her motive and reason for getting rid of Caylee.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 16, 2008 @ 1:44 am

I too believe they will be able to prove the motive.

I just wish they could find some remains, as that would make it a lot easier to convict, because it takes out the “what if” scenerios that the Anthony’s and the defense continue to spin. This is the only loophole that I see.

I hate to say this, but I really think it could happen, if one juror has doubt and can’t be convinced, you will have a hung jury.

There is always about 10% of any given population that will be difficult and contradict any idea, statement, or fact. They are always going against the grain, so to speak.

An example is that no matter what judge, in any given jurisdiction, will be voted not to be retained, regardless of how good he/she is doing (the voter may not have any idea who the Judge is or what they have done). They just automatically vote “no”.

Hopefully good jury selection will rule out those 10%, but if one gets by the State, then the Defense will have an out.

Hopefully, a body will be found before that day comes. The defense has little chance without a body, but no chance with a body.

Comment by sharebear — November 17, 2008 @ 10:52 am

When I write body, I clearly mean remains. I just hate thinking of her that way.

And, of course, the Judge is actaully retained, even though 10% would vote “no”.

Comment by sharebear — November 17, 2008 @ 10:58 am

One thing thats important – this trial isnt being
held in California! Its much easier to find someone
to hang a jury in California. However, I have checked
and Florida overall is much more conservative in its
jurors at trial. I think you have to start thinking
of the forensic evidence, particularly the testimony
of George Anthony and the police as to the smell in the car and the few other things they have, as the same as having the body. But the most damning thing will be Casey herself. There is such a coldness to her
that cannot be disguised. That is going to affect
the jury. I just wish the judge would let them try her
for the fraud charges first. I think that could make
an impact on the case.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 17, 2008 @ 12:16 pm

Cindy is at it again…

Following a prayer vigil on Sunday for Caylee, Cindy Anthony had some harsh words for Gonzalez’s attorney, John Morgan.

“I think the whole thing is ludicrous,” Cindy Anthony said. “Attorney Morgan — it’s frivolous — he needs to just get back to chasing the ambulances.”

Isn’t this the same Zenida Gonzalez that made a visit to the Sawgrass Apartments? Then this is the same Zenida that Casey attempted to frame. I think the Police will find evidence that proves this. This will show that Casey is lying to conspire.

CINDY YOU LOUSEY SKANK! This is the type of behavior that makes caring people like me, want to question the motives of people like you.

First, your daughter made a feeble attempt to connect that Zenida & the Sawgrass apartments. THAT IS A FACT!!!!

LIKE YOU, GEORGE & CASEY… Zenida has the right to seek counsel. Save your ambulance chaser comments WENCH! I think your defense is ludicrous and your house is a hot-bed for ambulance chasers that are backing your lies and prolonging your (and now our) misery from the inevitable truth!

CASEY KILLED CAYLEE!

Comment by MS — November 17, 2008 @ 12:26 pm

Isn’t it now obvious that Cindy Anthony has harsh words for everyone she speaks to including; former friends, Police, Tim Miller, Leonard Padilla, Jesse Grund & family…

The apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree u c?

Cindy Anthony is NOT a nice and compassionate or caring person. She is a pitiful excuse for a grandmother under the recent circumstances. Most of America can only morn for Caylee (at this time) because Cindy (like her daughter) is so undeserving of the public’s sorrow!

Comment by MS — November 17, 2008 @ 1:12 pm

Well, I can say I am glad that Florida is more conservative than California (that is a definite plus). I certainly do not want a hung jury, I am just a bit afraid of something awful like that happening with all of the ridiculous antics that continue to surround this case. She should spemd the remainder of her life in prison so she can reflect on her unforgivable actions.

Thankfully, Cindy must have Morgan confused with Baez in that ambulance chasing statement. She is no doubt reiterating what she has heard previously about JB in an attempt to discredit Morgan. I am sure he chuckled at that one.

Comment by sharebear — November 17, 2008 @ 2:48 pm

MS I agree totally about Cindy – Morgan the attorney
Cindy called an ambulance chaser today said that
Cindy would be better served to chase after caylee
by searching in the woods for her and that Cindy
“seems to be enjoying all the publicity” which I
totally agree with. For a controling person like
Cindy to have everyone hang on her every word must
be very gratifying indeed. However, for Cindy to blast
everyone else in this case, but ignore the fact
that the person who knows what happened to Caylee is sitting in jail never having uttered a truthful word
is galling to me.
Today its reported Padilla who is back in California
has been offered $200,000.00 to let a company film
him while he searchesf or Casey. In some ways I hope
he takes the money. If nothing else to piss off
Cindy!

Article from channel 13 news Orlando:
ORLANDO — News 13 has learned bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is considering an offer that would pour $200,000 into the search for Caylee Anthony.

Padilla told News 13 he has been contacted by a company that is willing to fund the search effort if Padilla is willing to give them exclusive rights to film the search effort.

The bounty hunter said he has not made a final decision on if he is willing to take the offer.

Padilla has returned to California, and will stay there for the next couple of weeks. He said he will return to Orlando and do a thorough search of the Little Econ River, where he still maintins he is “sure” Caylee’s remains are in that water.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 17, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

One other thing about Casey possible not being convicted. I think we are all rational and have
compassion. Most people who take the time to blog
like this are fascinated by human-interest stories
even though they might be about a crime. I just think
that the consensus among us is so much in Casey’s guilt that it will also seem that way to a jury.
We werent ready to “hang Casey” no matter what Cindy
might say. I think most people are bascially fair
and honest. This case outrages people so much because
of the blatant lying and spinning and misdirection
that has gone on- all done by Casey and the Anthonys.
Its like they think we are all stupid or will easily
swallow their lies. Cindy has gotten away on a small
scale by covering for Casey when she committed petty
stuff – but now she is trying to fool the world.
But we arent fooled.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 17, 2008 @ 3:41 pm

Well said Elaine,

I think everyone fears that Casey will get away with murder! Cindy has been the biggest freak enabler for years and is so far gone!

The lying, misdirection and spinning by both Mom & Daughter are literally appaling….

BRUTAL to the Nth degree!

I wish the police would treat Cindy the same way they did Padilla recently… We want her to take a lie detector.

Bring Cindy in for questioning!

Ask her questions about what she knows since their last discussion.

She knows more now than then 4 sure!

Comment by MS — November 17, 2008 @ 4:55 pm

Great Headline

“Cindy Anthony Continues Effort to Fool the World”

In a way, like Casey, this shows us all a dark glimpse of Cindy. Think about her priorities over the last 4 months… NOT CAYLEE, NOT worry or desparate cries for help from the public. Instead she chooses to combat with lies, misdirection, resentment, name calling, fingerpointing.

Comment by MS — November 17, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

yes MS its true, you wouldnt believe that an ordinary woman like Cindy snatched by the jaws of circumstance
into a horrendous firestorm could be such a master
of misdirection and obstruction. She must have been
doing it all her life.
Finally someone has looked into KidFinders!
Kathy Belich confronted Dennis Milstead today and
he got physical with them! Article below on this
from wftv.com:
ORLANDO, Fla. — He’s been arrested twice, once for assault and once for impersonating a police officer, and he’s the man Caylee Anthony’s grandparents are trusting to help find their granddaughter.
Dennis Milstead runs the so-called Kid Finders Network, but Eyewitness News uncovered serious problems with his criminal past and his not-for profit group, including the fact Kid Finders has never found anybody.
Still, the organization is out every day, collecting donations using jars with Caylee’s picture on them. Even the Palm Beach County sheriff’s sergeant who helps run their Crime Stoppers operation says Orange County deputies have been warned about Milstead.

When Eyewitness News confronted Milstead about his criminal past, he got very quiet and then he grabbed WFTV reporter Kathi Belich’s microphone and pushed the camera while WFTV photographer Adam Liberatore was holding on to it (images | video).

Milstead’s pickup truck had a “Gotcha” emblem on the side of it instead of the Kid Finders emblem he has now. West Palm Beach police say he flashed phony blue lights and claimed he was a law enforcement officer. He pled his felony down to a misdemeanor and seven months later another arrest for assault.

Eyewitness News has also learned that the president of Crime Stoppers in south Florida had a restraining order against Milstead after he allegedly tried to connive a 90-percent cut of any donations he solicited for the group. At the time, Milstead was operating a business called Gotcha Billboards, but he was reportedly representing himself as an employee of the non-profit Crime Stoppers.

Milstead’s Kid Finders Network mentions its intentions to raise funds a number of times, mainly so it says it can build more billboards to report on missing children. Its list of accomplishments does not include finding any missing children.

Eyewitness News obtained Kid Finders Network’s tax return for its first year in operation, 2006. It shows the organization borrowed $4,800 from someone to get started. It’s listed as an asset and a debt. Kid Finders’ 2007 return has not yet been submitted.

Fifteen minutes after Eyewitness News confronted them, Kid Finders packed up their posters and their donation cup and they left. END ARTICLE

Do not I repeat do not give any money to KidFinders.
Another scam associate with the Anthonys. Lets see
if Nancy Grace has this on tonight as Kathy Belich
is frequently a guest on her show!

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 17, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

“Cindy Anthony Continues Effort to Fool the World”

Comment by MS — November 17, 2008 @ 9:26 pm

The circus continues to roll – Baez is going to
be called to testify AGAINST Casey!
From wftv.com today:

Casey’s Own Attorney Could Testify Against Her
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 – updated: 1:30 pm EST November 18, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Eyewitness News learned Tuesday that Casey Anthony’s own defense attorney, Jose Baez, is on the state prosecutor’s witness list for her first-degree murder trial. So far, Eyewitness News has not heard back from prosecutors or the defense to find out why he’s on that list to testify against his own client.

Eyewitness News legal analyst William Sheaffer said any conversations Baez had with Anthony family members or even with Casey, if there was a third party present who was not part of the defense team, would not be privileged and he could be called to testify about those specific conversations.
Sheaffer also told Eyewitness News that it’s unusual for an attorney to stay on a case if they will be called to testify in it, either for the prosecution or the defense. The state ethics laws include protocol for such situations.

Others on the list of dozens of witnesses the prosecution will call include Casey Anthony’s grandmother, from whom Casey has been accused of stealing money, ex-boyfriends, including Jesse Grund, ex-friends, including Amy Huizenga, as well as several sheriff’s office investigators. END

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 18, 2008 @ 2:46 pm

Whoops the State now says having Baez as a witness
for the prosecution was an error he is not going to be called to testify againt Casey.
Too bad – it was an exciting thought while it lasted

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 18, 2008 @ 4:33 pm

Hey Folks!! In Maryland now…tomorrow, off to Rhode Island. Spent the day yesterday in D.C.! God I love the Smithsonian!!! Just finished reading the Blogs I missed here. I do have a question, mainly to Elaine.
I don’t understand your thinking when it comes to $200,000 going to Padilla’s search efforts. Why do you feel this is o.k.? It is clearly an effort for someone to profit from this tragedy. Padilla has shown no capabilities in all of this. He has promised in the past, 3,000 bounty hunters to show up in orlando to assist with Tim Millers search. No show by all 3,000. He swears Caylee is in the Econ River based, according to him, on a beaded cross found there that is similar to beads found in Caseys room by his associate. Orlando PD claims to have researched this and the cross belongs to another family. His only discovery so far has been a Gumby doll and some sticks. Now this is not an attack at you Elaine, I’ve grown to admire your interest and commitment to this case. I am just curious as to why Padilla?

Comment by Jeff — November 18, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

I admit it, I was in a pissy mood after seeing and learning what a sleaze this guy is from KidFinders and
that the Anthonys asked people to donate money to.
Also I heard that Cindy Anthony was going to write
a book on the case and that made me upset as well.
Youre right Jeff, no one should make money from this
tragedy. I emailed several reporters about Dennis Mistead and Kathy Belich did confront him and he shoved her and the cameraman. Padilla should not accept money, or if he does he should donate it to
legitimate organizations that truly help to find the missing. He shouldnt profit from Caylees disappearance
and neither should anyone else. Thanks for bringing it up.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 18, 2008 @ 7:01 pm

Also for anyone interested in the witness list for the prosecution it has been released on wftv.com

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 18, 2008 @ 7:02 pm

I know how you feel Elaine. It is easy to get frustrated with all this crap going on around the case. The real sad part is this is just one case. It happens every day all over America. This case is just bringing alot of it to light.

Comment by Jeff — November 18, 2008 @ 10:04 pm

The Anthonys are planning a presser (later in the week) that shows “hard evidence” that Caylee is alive!

Hmm…

Our precious little Caylee has been missing 4 twenty one weeks and we currently have evidence that she is ALIVE!

Instead of calling FBI & or Police immediately, George & I will…

Construct a formal press conference (for a few days) before we go get Caylee and or release our innocent Casey from prison!

Can I say it again?

“Cindy Anthony Continues Effort to Fool the World”

Comment by MS — November 18, 2008 @ 11:22 pm

This (found below) sounds interesting and important but I am not smart enough yet to say why. Why? Help…

WESH’s Bob Kealing passed along a comment that Casey Anthony supposedly blurted out. A “lead investigator” said that Casey said of the search for missing daughter Caylee, “They haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing.”

Padilla, from Sacramento, told WESH that Casey made the comment to his associate, who was spending time in the Anthony home.

The unnamed investigator in the case told Kealing that Casey’s comment was “an important statement” and that Caylee’s clothing has not been found.

Comment by MS — November 19, 2008 @ 1:04 am

Well, that seems to me to mean that Caylee was somehow separated from the clothes she was wearing.
Its a ghastly thought but could Casey have undressed
Caylee and then either buried or thrown the body in water or a trash dumpster without clothes? Again
a statement blurted out by a defendent or a witness
can be used in court. There is a term legally to describe it, but I cant think of the name of the term.
Its the same type of thing as when Cindy blurted out
“It smells like theres been a damn body in the trunk”
something like an exuberant declaration type of term.
In any case whichever lead investigator heard it will
be called to testify to it, as its extremely significant as it says that the defendent is stating that the clothes are separated from Caylee
and are hidden (in whatever manner such as buried,
thrown in a bag into water, etc).
Thats what I get out of it – also this is just my guess, Id be interested to hear other opinions as to
what it could mean.
The other significant thing is just Casey’s reaction to the search. A mother, who is saying her child
was kidnapped, would still not know what the kidnappers did to the child so should be very interested in a search. Casey has no interest in Caylee at all. She is commenting on what the searchers are doing, and not having normal emotional
reactions during the search. Its like shes a damn smart aleck telling everyone that they so “off base”.
This thing with Cindy Anthony saying that they have
concrete evidence that Caylee is alive is such bull.
First of all if you have concrete evidence a child
is being sighted all over the country, you give it to the FBI, and LE. You dont hold a news conference with
some two-bit spokesperson and announce it to the world. Thats just for the media and to spin the case
further. Also if Cindy believed that Caylee was kidnapped how does she know the kidnappers didnt do
away with Caylee? Will she explain the motive of the kidnappers to keep Caylee in the face of such a massive manhunt? Will she explain why the kidnappers
knowing everyone in the world is keeping an eye out for Caylee (even though we know she is dead, we still might do that, just in case) drag Caylee around in
public? Will she explain how every tip and sighting
in the past 5 months has come to nothing? Will she
explain why, after saying repeatedly that they couldnt
speak because it would put Caylee in DANGER, now
explain why she can speak? And how she got the information Caylee is no longer in danger if she
does speak publicly? If there is a reporter who
will ask her these questions, then maybe we will
get some answers – but they wont be truthful ones,
that I can assure you.
One more thing, I read the witness list. Could there
be more witnesses later? There was no FBI listed nor
any forensic’s people listed. I find that strange
as they are absolutely crucial to the evidence found
in the car.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 19, 2008 @ 11:21 am

All great points Elaine

Comment by MS — November 19, 2008 @ 11:36 am

“Meanwhile, investigators are still trying to get more information out of George and Cindy with little success,” D’Onofrio said. “They believe they have a lot of information they’re keeping from them. Detectives still want to talk to Cindy about the smelly clothes in Casey’s car she washed. They also believe George and Lee know more than they’re willing to share.”

Just take them in for questioning for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by MS — November 19, 2008 @ 11:36 am

To MS, yes thats an interesting point isnt it.
Why dont they haul them in for questioning. In my opinion Cindy washing the clothes was a definite obstruction of justice. In some cases it could even
be looked at as an accomplice after the fact.
I wonder if these were poor or lower income people
or people of color, if the police would be using such
kid gloves with them. Zenaida Gonzalez certainly got the shaft, she has had her name dragged through the mud as she is not wealthy or was a person of means and
couldnt do anything about it until she finally got
a lawyer to tell her she had a case. For Baez to counter sue is so stupid because now Casey has to testify. Saying it was not the Zenaida Casey was referring to doesnt wash because she also used the name of the Sawgrass apartments which that Zenaida
had visited. Casey used information she probably
got from two friends that lived in that same apartment building. All three of the Anthonys will
have to testify. We will then see if they are willing
under oath to perjure themselves as well. Cindy says
that Lee Anthony has been gone trying to make a living. I dont ever remember hearing what he does.
Was he fired from his job? Does anyone know what type
work he did? In any case, to most people the Anthonys have no credibility and have lost the public’s sympathy with their actions.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 19, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

Another interesting comment that Cindy made early in the investigation (on tape) was that she thought Zanny was Jesse or Amy! Thus admitting that Zenida does not exist!

So is there is new information that makes her believe differently since? Or is she now covering her comments to protect Casey?

Haul her but in for crying out loud! This is an outrage! If she starts pleading the 5th that will tell u somthing!

Cindy has stated on plenty of occasions (pointed the finger) at police 4 not looking 4 Caylee! What she wont admit is that She and her daughter are not talking to them?

What can they do? Why should the police be questioned when the people they need to cooperate refuse to help?

Comment by MS — November 19, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

Unfortunately, Cindy washing the clothes is not an obstruction of justice, unless police had already told her not to touch anything in the car, then the situation would be different. I am not clear on the facts as to when they were washed in correlation to police contact.

However, I believe she knew by washing the clothes, she was protecting Casey, in the event something had happened to Caylee. She certainly has an agenda to clear Casey at the expense of justice for Caylee. I personally found this to be mind boggling.

Now as to Casey’s reported statement regarding not finding clothes; one could argue that as an aggravating factor that could be associated with an admission of Guilt, or at the very least an acknowledgement that Caylee’s body and clothing had been sepateted.

Wild idea here, but perhaps she took the clothes so that they would not be found floating in the Lake.

This family is dysfunction running rampant. Lee’s laugh when he spoke of the smell, what was that all about?

Comment by sharebear — November 19, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

The only reason people fail to talk is to cover up something and protect themselves.

I did not want to think the whole family was in on this, but I have come to think they must be at this point.

Comment by sharebear — November 19, 2008 @ 3:28 pm

I do not mean that the family did anything to Caylee, but rather that the family is knowingly trying to produce a reasonable doubt to free Casey. Although, I do understand that the grandparents want little Caylee back in their lives. I just don’t understand why they are spending more time saying Casey is a victim that pleading to the world for a no questions asked return; if they truly believed she was alive.

I am also suspect to Cindy’s “concrete evidence” remark. I have often wondered if Caylee is buried under that concrete slab that was laid over the fouth of July weekend. Casey could not have done that on her own, but with the help from friend, family, or hired thug she certainly could have accomplished that.

I do not know if cadaver dogs could detece a smell that far down and with thick cement covering. Perhaps someone else could enlighten me on this, but I have been plaqued with that thought since the beginning. Casey stated she was close to home and tha dogs did hit on the yard, where perhaps she laid while the hole was being dug.

Perhaps she got rid of the original clothes (disposed of them elsewhere) as they would have been stained, etc, and put clean clothes on her if she did bury her.

I need to stop thinking or I will never stop.

Comment by sharebear — November 19, 2008 @ 3:56 pm

Casey didnt take any of Caylees clothes with her when she left on June 16th . Only a backpack and George saw them off at about 1:30 according to his statement. That has always bothered me. There have been reports that Casey was leaving to go to work according to George. But Cindy later stated that Casey was going on a mini-vacation to take Caylee to “bond” with her. Again its a strange statement – everyone is always saying what a great mother Casey was – why then did Caylee need to bond with her? Probably because instead of turning
to her Casey when Caylee got upset or something was
wrong with her, she turned to Cindy, is my thought.
George being a man (sorry guys!) maybe wouldnt notice
that she wasnt taking a lot of stuff for someone
going on a mini-vacation but still something about
these stories dont add up. Also if Casey was going to work, then why didnt the Anthonys get upset when she
didnt return that night or the next or not at all with
Caylee? Cindy finally had to track her down.
As to Cindy washing her pants. They smelled terribly,
Cindy at that point didnt know it was a crime scene,
however if she suspected and washed the pants, would
that be considered an accomplice after the fact?
Of course, you couldnt prove it but I definitely have
my suspicions as to her washing those pants. It
will be interesting to see what Cindy says under oath.
I believe she and Lee will not tell the whole truth,
but George will. He already has, in his sworn statements that have been released. Cindy never really revealed anything in her statements at all,
except trying to point the fingers at her daughters friends.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 19, 2008 @ 4:49 pm

wesh.com is reporting that the Sheriffs office is no longer following up tips and that Caylee Anthony is dead.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 19, 2008 @ 8:10 pm

Cindy and George Anthony WILL write a book – of course! Did we ever believe that they wouldnt?
If Casey gets off – maybe they can call it
“How to get away with murder”

ARticle below:

Will there be a book or not? WFTV-Channel 9 said there would be. Then WESH-Channel 2 said there wouldn’t.

WKMG-Channel 6 “has gotten to the bottom of it,” anchor Bob Frier proclaimed Wednesday night. “We now know that George and Cindy Anthony do plan to write a book. They don’t have a deal in the works, per se, but they plan to put something together in the future. They say it won’t be a tell-all book. Instead, it will focus on what families should do if their child is missing.”

Why the confusion? The Anthonys keep changing their stories in talking to the TV stations.

Of course, a lot of people say they’ll write a book. There will be news when there’s a deal or a manuscript. But do you think anyone with a missing child would want to follow the Anthonys’ example or advice? Who would buy their book?

Their daughter, Casey, has been charged with first-degree murder in the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 11:36 am

Regarding this statement:
“They haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing.”

I agree with you, Elaine, that this seems MOST LIKELY a smart-aleck comment meant to say that the searchers are off the mark. Out of context, I can’t really think of anything else she could have meant by that.

However, I could see it being framed differently if it was in context with Casey saying something like this:

“I don’t know why everyone insists on searching for remains of a body they believe was dumped, because they haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing, which would be found much more easily, and would give youreason to believe a body was dumped.”
OR
“It makes more sense that she was kidnapped, because they haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing.”

Now before I get crucified, I don’t think either of the former scenarios are legitimate, but I would just like to hear the context in which Casey made that statement, if there was a context. Or did was it just an excited utterance (I think that may be what Elaine was talking about), and not in the context of any conversation or other statements? Certainly, if it was an excited utterance, it will be much more damning.

This case sickens me to my core. I am plagued with thoughts of this mother holding her lifeless child and figuring how to dispose of her… then doing it in whatever heinous way she did it. God almighty, how could she be so cold? Pure evil. That’s all I can say.

God be with little Caylee, wherever she is.

Comment by glp — November 20, 2008 @ 11:47 am

Nejame resigned! He is no longer representing the Anthony’s. I assume he realizes that Caylee is gone and the Anhony’s are creating a mess.

Comment by sharebear — November 20, 2008 @ 3:39 pm

SHOCKING LETTER POSTED BY NEJAME:
Mark NeJame released a statement on Thursday about his decision:

”Unfortunately, I have made the decision that it is best not to continue my representation of George and Cindy Anthony”George and Cindy have a belief that their beloved granddaughter, Caylee, is still alive. Tips and leads continue to come in. I believe strongly that they should have every right to maintain their hope and faith that one of these “sightings” will miraculously be the one that brings Caylee home to them. What parent or grandparent would surrender such hope?

”Who is one person to tell another parent or grandparent when it is time for them to abandon their faith? When does a stranger have the right to judge another who has endured such a loss? The attacks made against them by some are deplorable.

”Let them be to do what they feel they must to find their beloved granddaughter, Caylee. Knowing this case as well as probably anyone on earth, there is no doubt that they do not know where Caylee is. Allow them to walk their own path.

”I only agreed to represent George and Cindy Anthony, so long as there were no restrictions placed on me whatsoever as to finding Caylee, regardless of where this might lead. Quite simply, this meant that I could do whatever I needed to find Caylee whether she was alive or not. It impressed me that George and Cindy, both believing that Caylee was still with us, had an overriding and primary concern in finding Caylee, even if the result was not as they would hope. The other condition I required was that I would have absolutely nothing to do with representing Casey or assisting in her legal defense.

”Abundant efforts have been made towards finding Caylee. I have worked with so many involved in this matter towards the goal of finding this dear, missing child who has captured the hearts of so many. Some ignorant and judgmental members of the public though have made hateful and inaccurate accusations against me and others, when they had no idea whatsoever what was really going on. As my new, good friend, Tim Miller from Equusearch, tells me ‘everybody associated with this case gets body slammed.’ However, like Tim, when you know in your heart that you’re doing the right thing, you just move forward knowing that right will ultimately win out. Some have falsely accused me and some others of being in this for the money. If they only knew how utterly wrong and misguided they are.

”I had come to a personal opinion and theory for quite some time whether Caylee was still with us or not. However, my opinion was only one like any other … an opinion. The only person without an opinion though is Casey Anthony as only she knows the truth.

”I believe that the singular person out of the 6 billion people in the world who holds the key to finding Caylee is her mother, Casey Anthony. Although I was quite successful in resolving a multitude of matters, I am unable to go further to help George and Cindy find Caylee in my current role. I can only provide my best advice and must respect any client’s prerogative to do what they deem is best, whether they choose to follow my guidance or not. However, there is little value or use I can provide to any client if they choose to act and comment at will.

”As someone who has learned and knows the inner workings and details of the case and its various characters intimately, the rampant sensationalism and unfounded accusations must stop. Allow Cindy and George Anthony the respect and decency of dealing with their hope and efforts to find their missing and beloved Caylee as they need to. Allow those with differing opinions on finding and searching for Caylee, whether she is with us or not, to do their jobs without interruption. Finally, the judicial system is in play and justice will be best served by mindless meddlers staying out of something they know little of. There are many wonderful people involved in efforts to find Caylee and there are, unfortunately, many who are exploiting this child. Sadly, most in the public are clueless about who is doing what and what is really going on. The negative actions of some are only counterproductive and hurtful to the cause of those many good people who are doing so much to do something positive with this most sad and tragic situation.

”There should only be one goal and that is to find Caylee Marie Anthony.”

Local 6 News is attempting to reach George and Cindy Anthony for their reaction to NeJame’s decision.

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Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 6:09 pm

The fourth paragraph from Nejame says quite a bit:

Quote:”I only agreed to represent George and Cindy Anthony, so long as there were no restrictions placed on me whatsoever as to finding Caylee, regardless of where this might lead. Quite simply, this meant that I could do whatever I needed to find Caylee whether she was alive or not” end quote

To me that statement seems to read that Cindy and George would not agree to let Nejame follow leads
or theories as to Caylee being dead. Also
Tim Miller telling Nejame everyone whos around the
Anthonys gets slammed is also just incredible.

This will hurt Casey and the Anthony’s case. Nejame
knows Casey is guilty too.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 6:13 pm

from wesh.com
ORLANDO, Fla. — Prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame told WESH 2 News Thursday that he is withdrawing as attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, whose daughter is charged with murdering their granddaughter.
In an interview with WESH 2 News reporter Bob Kealing, NeJame said he was frustrated with the direction the Anthonys have taken, especially that they continue to contend that Caylee Anthony is alive.
NeJame said, in a news release (see below), that the family’s belief limited his ability to represent them. “What is the sense of having an adviser, if you are not going to follow his advice.”
“If I’m going to serve as an adviser, then you have to follow my advice,” Nejame said of his relationship with the Anthonys.

NeJame was at George Anthony’s side when Anthony was a key witness in the grand jury proceedings that led to an indictment of Casey Anthony on first-degree murder and other charges.

Casey Anthony is being held in Orange County Jail on no bond awaiting trial that is scheduled to start in January. END ARTICLE

It seems to me that what Nejame is saying is that
Caylee is dead and that the Anthonys should now
acknowlege it in someway and change their strategy
and take more of an defensive approach.

Id like some opinions here are these statements
from others.
No word from the Anthonys – I wonder if they will
try to “trash” Nejame now

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 6:19 pm

“Steve walks warily down the street
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain’t no sound but the sound of his feet
Machine guns ready to go

Are you ready, hey, are you ready for this
Are you hangin’ on the edge of your seat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat – yeah

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust

ANYONE WHO BEFRIENDS CINDY AIN’T FRIENDS TOO LONG!

Down goes Padilla
Down goes Miller
Down goes Grund
Down goes Nejame

Down goes Frazier!

Comment by MS — November 20, 2008 @ 8:29 pm

here is the statement from Michele Bart the Anthonys
new best friend!

November 20, 2008 For Immediate Release: Contact: Michelle A. Bart
helpingheroes@earthlink.net (626) 644-3472 Orlando, FL – “Due to recent developments and events this week, it has now become unnecessary to hold a press conference,” said Michelle Bart, spokesperson for the Anthony family. “The search for Caylee Marie Anthony will continue and we are asking the public if you feel your previous tips were not addressed to please contact Caylee’s tipline at 1-888-231-5618, furthermore, the command center will continue to be open weekly Thursday – Monday from 10am-4pm in order for us to continue our outreach to the community in bringing home Caylee and many other children that are still missing,” said George Anthony. “We appreciate the time and energy that Mr. NeJame and his law firm has dedicated to representing us in the last several months. We respect Mr. NeJame’s decision to resign as our representative as we agree that he can no longer be of benefit to us in our quest to find our missing granddaughter Caylee Marie. We wish Mark and his staff all the best,” said George and Cindy Anthony.
For further information please continue to visit http://www.helpfindcaylee.com or http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing. ###

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

here is the statement from Michele Bart the Anthonys new best friend as to why there is no new conference:
Tips: http://www.helpfindcaylee.com
888-231-5618
November 20, 2008 For Immediate Release: Contact: Michelle A. Bart
helpingheroes@earthlink.net (626) 644-3472 Orlando, FL – “Due to recent developments and events this week, it has now become unnecessary to hold a press conference,” said Michelle Bart, spokesperson for the Anthony family. “The search for Caylee Marie Anthony will continue and we are asking the public if you feel your previous tips were not addressed to please contact Caylee’s tipline at 1-888-231-5618, furthermore, the command center will continue to be open weekly Thursday – Monday from 10am-4pm in order for us to continue our outreach to the community in bringing home Caylee and many other children that are still missing,” said George Anthony. “We appreciate the time and energy that Mr. NeJame and his law firm has dedicated to representing us in the last several months. We respect Mr. NeJame’s decision to resign as our representative as we agree that he can no longer be of benefit to us in our quest to find our missing granddaughter Caylee Marie. We wish Mark and his staff all the best,” said George and Cindy Anthony.
For further information please continue to visit http://www.helpfindcaylee.com or http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing. ###

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 9:26 pm

The Anthonys have also backed tracked on their statement that they had “concrete proof” that Caylee is alive.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 9:38 pm

Regarding Cindy,

Unless she can prove to the public (100%)that Caylee is “Alive”, the public will demand justice and like you dismiss your comments.

Where is her evidence? She has none.

Comment by MS — November 20, 2008 @ 10:06 pm

The Anthonys have also backed tracked on their statement that they had “concrete proof” that Caylee is alive.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 20, 2008 @ 9:38 pm

FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Cindy Anthony Continues Effort to Fool the World”

Comment by MS — November 20, 2008 @ 10:58 pm

What bothers me? No reporter (none that I have seen) is good enough to talk about the facts during connversation. They allow Cindy to control the interview and never press. I am not a professional but here would be my opening…

REPORTER: “Cindy, as you know, most feel that Caylee is dead, however many don’t.

How can we help?

Tell us what you know about Zenida Gonzales?

Did Caylee ever speak of Zenida?

At one time you thought Zenida was Amy or Jesse… what has changed since to make you believe that Zenida exists?

Talk about your relationship with Casey…

Talk about the my space dialogue between you and Casey.

Where was jour daughter working for the last 2 years and where was Caylee all this time.

Comment by MS — November 21, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

i have just completed reading all these comments by everyone! it has been very interesting reading. i live not too far from orlando, and have keeping up with this case since the beginning. my dad was also a cop,and he had taught me a lot while growing up on how to read people. in my heart, i believe that the granddad knows absolutely NOTHING! as for the “grandma”, she needs, just like her daughter, to be injected with truth serum! haven’t seen too much of lee, to really study his reactions, but he may know a little as well. as for the clothes that cindy washed, she knows darned good and well what death smells like,she was/is a nurse. i even know what it smells like! and for her to mention that right off the bat,she knew that she shouldn’t have said it, afterwards, then trying to cover it up. i have read some of the transcripts that was put out as public record. in one of them, casey mentioned something about her daughter was “sleeping”, and about being an “angel”. so here i sit, as an outsider, reading this stuff, and correct me if i’m wrong, but when a person mentions those two things together, at least to me anyway, that is a different way of saying that person is dead. i’m just sorry that the entire country has to be involved in this because of some low-life that calls herself this child’s mom, won’t say anything! the more she doesn’t say anything, the more people will post bad comments, which i have, too, just like everyone else. they posted some little girl’s picture on the internet this morning, the “clue” that cindy was talking about all week. a lot of people are commenting about pulling the picture off the web, as now that little girl, who isn’t caylee, could now be in danger! people are pleading with the parents of the little girl to go to the police and demand her picture be removed. this whole entire case has been taking up so much of everything! from the police, the FBI, sheriff department, equisearch, and the bounty hunter, and everyone else who is out looking! ALSO, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS DONE THAT! EVERYONE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB!!!! my only question that i have, is why wasn’t the anthony’s out looking with everyone else, from day ONE! cindy just demands everything, gives out orders like people are animals, answers, legal help, search parties, all the while she just sits at home, until more illegal stuff and people came into the picture! they should put casey into the regular part of the jail, and i’m quite positive that the world will find out what happened! the general population will just beat it out of her! i’m sorry if i’m ranting, but this case just bothers the heck out of me. it reminds me of a case my dad was working on as a detective up north

Comment by jml — November 21, 2008 @ 4:51 pm

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Comment by Jeff — November 22, 2008 @ 3:32 pm

Hello folks!!
I guess this blog is running again. I tried to post the other night but no success!

Comment by Jeff — November 22, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

Did everyone hear the tapes from the FBI that have
been released? Georges tape are extraordinary in their candor – I think his testimony alone could convict Casey. Cindy’s were the same old line
I too couldnt post on this site for several days now.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 22, 2008 @ 5:46 pm

I have been thinking about the possibility that Casey planned to stage a hoax. A “kidnapping” of Caylee. Casey was stealing money from any and everyone even Caylee’s piggy bank. Things were coming to a head. Her father was questioning Caylee about being at the nannys and getting no response from Caylee. Maybe Casey was schooling her not to talk about where they went to her grandparents. Casey knows her father is suspicious about her really working. Cindy tells George to lay off – hes not a detective anymore. I cannot understand why Cindy did that but George doesnt pursue it but has his suspicions. Casey knows shes going to get found out sooner or later and Cindy is seeing a therapist. Cindy unable to keep quiet has possibly told Casey that shes going to get thown out of the house and Cindy will go for custody. So Casey, being the great movie buff she is plans to “kidnap” Caylee. She starts searching for chloroform having seen it used in movies and also missing children’s websites to see how they search for the missing. The discovery of her stealing from her own grandfathers assisted living bank account brings things to a head. She leaves on the 16th drives somewhere secluded and gives a little chloroform to Caylee and knocks her out and leaves her in the trunk. She starts to make frantic phone calls to everyone but can reach no one. That would explain the flurry of phone calls that day. She opens the trunk to check on Caylee and discovered she has died. From then on Caylee stays in the trunk. Thats as far as I can go because frankly, it is absolutely unbelievable to me that if all that occurred, that Casey could casually go to Tonys house later than evening and rent a movie! But thats what she did. Possibly with Caylees death, she felt free now to do what she wanted which was live with Tony and as the kidnapping scheme didnt work out – she wouldnt have to go home. So now everyone, tell me where all the holes in this theory are – because Im sure there are a lot of them!

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 22, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

If Casey is a cold, calculating killer with no conscience whatsoever, then I agree. But even after all I’ve seen and read, and even experienced, I don’t feel this is the case. I still lean towards an accident with a cover-up or even selling, or giving Caylee to someone. People that act this way (like a killer) tend to get caught right away and usually don’t deny their actions. Casey is a scumbag, but she is a different breed of sociopath. I do believe when this is all over, they will have a co ndition diagnosed that will be unique to her ways. I just wish this whole thing would come to an end. Some kind of resolution is better than waiting and wondering.

Comment by Jeff — November 23, 2008 @ 2:00 am

I don’t think kidnapping, or a fake kidnapping was ever planned.

Comment by Jeff — November 23, 2008 @ 2:02 am

If I had to put all my money on a theory about what happened in this case, well, I’d probably go broke because God and Casey only really know what happened, but I’d put my little bit of money on an accidental death and cover-up.

I don’t think there ever was a “Zenaida”, I think Zanny was always Xanax, but when pressed on it, Casey threw the name Zenaida out to appease her parents. I think Casey regularly used Xanax or other knock-out methods to keep Caylee out of the way while she was escorting or partying, or when couldn’t find a legitimate babysitter. I don’t think she did this with any intention of harming her, but certainly with complete disregard for Caylee’s well-being, of course. And maybe Xanax wasn’t proving to be knocking Caylee out well enough, so Casey considered using chloroform, thinking it just might work better. And maybe she did try it, and used too much, resulting in Caylee’s accidental death. Maybe, with what miniscule amount of emotion Casey is capable of, she left Caylee in the trunk for the next couple days because she couldn’t face what she had done, albeit, accidentally. Also, she probably spent the next couple days trying to figure out what the heck to do with a body so that it wouldn’t be found. Not too many of us would innately know what to do to with a body so that it isn’t found. No doubt that took some thought and planning. All the while, Casey was trying to act “normal” so as not to alarm anyone or alert anyone to what happened. And as unthinkable as it is for any person with a conscience, Casey ultimately believed that the only chance of getting away with this was to dump the body, and roll the dice that it wouldn’t be found. And for her, so far, so good, at least as far as we know. Maybe she figured that since it was an accident, she shouldn’t pay for it as dearly as she would if she confessed to the accidental death. And as cold as she appeared in the days following Caylee’s death, well, I can only attribute that to the sociopathic nature that I do believe Casey embodies.

As for the kidnapping thing, I think she may have thought about it as a possible way to extort money from her parents, knowing full well that they would have given any amount of money to get a missing Caylee back. I don’t think this ultimately had anything to do with Caylee’s death, but I think this is why Casey was looking up the missing children stuff on the internet.

And I think that now, Casey, and her defense team are just trying to scape up whatever shred of doubt they can find, and couple that with the as of yet, undiscovered remains and questionable forensics, in the hopes of swaying that one juror.

I based the above theory on my gut feeling only. Nothing factual to back it up. Interested on any thoughts…

God be with little Caylee, wherever she is.

Comment by glp — November 23, 2008 @ 6:42 pm

I really don’t know what the behavioral manifestations of over-using Xanax in a small child would look like. I don’t disagree that there would probably be some signs of something not being right with her if Casey was doing this too often, but we don’t really know how often she did this, and it is possible Cindy attributed any unusual behavior or physical signs to other things. It is not uncommon for people involved in a tragedy to say they should have seen signs, but didn’t realize at the time what they were seeing. Granted, Cindy is a nurse and should be more astute, but we just don’t know what she saw, or how she interpreted it.

And Deb ~ if you are the same Deb ~ you are a brave soul coming back here! Personally, I am glad to have you back, and I wholeheartedly hope everyone here is kinder this time around…

Comment by glp — November 24, 2008 @ 9:00 am

The date of Caylees death is very important and difficult to figure out. LE thinks it was June 16th
as Caylee was never seen anywhere after that date and
Casey never talks about her again to her friends. We know she went with Tony’s to the movies the night of
June 16th. We know her father say Casey and Caylee
leave that same day at about 1:30 pm. My question has
been if this was an accident how in the world could Casey have so casually gone to rent movies? To me,
if she accidentally killed Caylee she should have been UPSET, because she didnt plan to do so. However,
if it was premeditated and shes the sociopath we know
she is – then she wouldnt be upset, she would have
gotten exactly what she wanted – Caylees death and
she was able to plan on moving in with Tony – which is exactly what she did.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 24, 2008 @ 11:25 am

Michele Bart held a news conference today with the Anthonys and the private detective where they chastised everyone for not looking for Caylee
and especially the internet bloggers. I felt sorry for the Anthonys because they are so deluded. The
FBI interview of George revealed a lot, the biggest fast is that George really believes that Casey did something to Caylee. This Michele Bart for a spokeswoman looked like she just rolled out of bed.
Sorry, but it seems to me that just being well groomed
should be a prerequiste of a spokesperson. She kept
saying to “prove us wrong” about these sightings being Caylee. Cindy said science is not science.
Gosh I wonder if she would feel that way if a stranger
hurt one of her family and they wanted to use DNA,
air samples, fingerprints you know, scientific type stuff to help put the wrong-doer away? As to the prove us wrong statement – how about the fact that
no tip has been proven to be Caylee? How about the fact that time after time the sightings were false?
Bart asks why would people who have no reason to call them keep sending tips? Because people want recognition and to insert themselves into a case.
Something like 10 to 15 percent of innocent people
confess to crimes, maybe for some recognition in life.
Again this press conference was nothing but the usual spin as the trial nears.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 25, 2008 @ 2:46 pm

Well for all of you who believed Cindy was obstructing justice – this is the article for
you! from wftv.com

FBI Investigating Email That Could Land Cindy In Jail
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 – updated: 5:06 pm EST November 25, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, fla. — The FBI is investigating an email, obtained only by Eyewitness News, and legal experts say what’s in it could land Cindy Anthony in a jail cell for obstructing justice.

If the FBI finds the email is legit, it could prove Cindy was deliberately hiding evidence from detectives and, while Eyewitness News investigates the possible cover-up, the state wants the Anthony family to shut up.

When Eyewitness News obtained an email from Larry Garrison (read the email), it was handed over to the FBI because of the explosive evidence inside. The email says Cindy gave investigators the wrong hairbrush when they asked for Caylee’s brush to compare DNA from her hair to the hair they found in Casey’s trunk, where it smelled of death.

Eyewitness News told the FBI about it and now they’re investigating whether Cindy has tried to sabotage the investigation.

Cindy Anthony tries to give the appearance that she’s cooperating with investigators, but Eyewitness News has learned she and her husband George have been stalling for weeks to answer their follow-up questions in the investigation.

Then Tuesday, a controversial email surfaced. It appears that the Anthonys’ former spokesman, Larry Garrison, says he confronted Cindy by email about why she gave Casey’s hairbrush, instead of Caylee’s hairbrush, to investigators who wanted a DNA sample.

Garrison said Cindy’s emailed response was: “I never lied. I just never went to my bathroom to get the hairbrush that I used only for Caylee.”

Eyewitness News passed the email along to FBI Special Agent Nick Savage, who told Eyewitness News Tuesday: “The appropriate weight will be given to this like all other information received. Law enforcement will address this matter as it relates to the investigation.”

Eyewitness News legal analyst Bill Scheaffer told Eyewitness News the obstruction of justice statute could apply.

“If she knowingly gave the investigators the wrong hairbrush, then I think there’s enough elasticity in this statute that one could bring a charge of obstructing justice,” Schaeffer said.

It is unlikely the Anthonys would be charged since they lost their granddaughter, but the issues could affect their credibility if they try to defend Casey in court.

So is this “obstructing justice?” Eyewitness News looked up the legal definition. It says, if someone withholds testimony, a record, document or another object from an official investigation, it could be considered obstruction.

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 25, 2008 @ 6:20 pm

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!

Comment by Jeff — November 27, 2008 @ 2:13 pm

Happy thanksgiving!
Ive been having trouble posting – the latest news
from the Anthony case has been scorching!

Comment by Elaine 16 — November 28, 2008 @ 11:01 am

There needs to be a gag order in place! Would THIS prevent Cindy A from bogarting every, single, solitary microphone, that comes within 2 inches of her (undesirable-looking)face and all the lies that come flying out of her (ugly) mouth? Does she have any idea how pathetic she is with all her blatant lies? Obviously not! She is a terrible G-mother!
She is doing a HUGE diservice to little Caylee, with her bad behavior. She doesn’t have one tenth the class that Natalie Hollaway’s Mother has.
Best Regards,
Debra

Comment by debra griffiths — December 1, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

All we can do is sit and wait for the trial.

A gag order would not likely prevent Cindy from talking. She has an agenda (casting reasonable doubt) and she will not stop until the verdict is in and the sentence begins.

I do believe that she should be charged with obstruction now based on what I have read; of course that will not happen.

If she was arrested, she could easily be placed on probation and ordered to seek some counseling, which would actually be good for her at this time. But of course, she is a victim here and I am sure the State does not want to mess with it.

I just hope that the trial will not be delayed; although, I am sure it will be continued for awhile.

Comment by sharebear — December 1, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

BREAKING NEWS –

A child’s remains have been found within 3/8’s of a mile from the Anthony home. Anthropologically, it fits Caylee’s description. Found in a garbage bag by a utility worker. He opened the bag and a skull rolled out, as it was reported.

Just saw this on the breaking news.

God be with little Caylee, and it appears, she is already there, with Him. Rest in Peace, little one.

Comment by glp — December 11, 2008 @ 12:57 pm

I just saw on the news that Skeletal remains have been found a quarter of a mile from the Anthony Home December 11 2008. I wonder what Caseys story will be now. Most likely that the babysitter must of killed her

Comment by BS — December 11, 2008 @ 1:15 pm

I can only imagine that is the direction the defense will go. I am still of the opinion that Caylee’s death was an accident, caused by Casey’s wreckless endangerment of her child through the use of either drugs or chloroform to sedate Caylee while she prostituted or partied, or whatever the heck she did. See my post # 155.

God be with little Caylee.

Comment by glp — December 11, 2008 @ 2:44 pm

I have to wonder after hearing the report of possible decayed duct tape if this is Caylee. Trenton Duckett is also from the area and has been missing since 2006. He was two years old as well. It is interesting how close this discovery is to the Anthony residence though. Either way, this news is heartbreaking.

Comment by Jeff — December 11, 2008 @ 4:35 pm

Jeff ~

Doesn’t it strike you as odd, that if this bag was in such close proximity to the Anthony residence, that it hadn’t been found during the major search efforts? I read a report that the bag was 40-60 feet into the wooded area, and that area was flooded during the search, so I suppose this could account for not finding it sooner. Does that make sense to you? Also, I just have a hard time thinking that Casey would dump Caylee’s body so close to her home, surely figuring a search would quickly uncover her body. Of course, I can’t fathom disposing of my child’s body at all, but thank God, I am not like Casey.

Interested in your thoughts…

Comment by glp — December 11, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

glp,

I really do not know what to think. Casey is not your average mom. Her thought patterns are completely unpredictable. What I can say is if they determine that this is Caylee, and duct tape had been used as a method of quieting her, then the state should reconsider going after the death penalty again. I had hopes that if Caylee was dead, it was an accident. If she was duct taped, this was no accident. I dont and never did buy the whole “kidnapping thing”. I know people have done awful things to thier children in the past but I really wanted to believe she was ok. As everyone here knows, I participated in the search. My reasons for doing this were if Casey had killed Caylee, I wanted to do my part to ensure there is a body to lock this thing down. I can tell you honestly that this is the last thing Noelle and I wanted to find. After searching, you quickly realize one thing. Caylee could be anywhere. Trying to make sense out of the location is useless. None of us can think like a person who has to dispose of their child. (thank god). I started on this blog as a method of research for a book I am writing. It has nothing to do with Caylee or Casey. I have become emotionally involved with this case and probably a little to close to it. The other thing I have learned is that the thing we are all chasing after, if this is Caylee, we will never find. We will never have an answer or understanding as to how a mother could do this to a child.

Comment by Jeff — December 12, 2008 @ 12:30 am

k here…

I’m sorry that the comment sections have been wonky. The comments on the most recent Caylee Anthony post have been fixed and are working now. Dawn did an excellent writeup here.

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