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		<title>By: Queen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You welcome Zippo.

Now another Scientologist has just died. He jumped off a bridge in Ca. and committed suicide. Only 54 years old with family.
How many more victims wil there be?
This guy was an OTV.
Some great cult eh?
RIP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You welcome Zippo.</p>
<p>Now another Scientologist has just died. He jumped off a bridge in Ca. and committed suicide. Only 54 years old with family.<br />
How many more victims wil there be?<br />
This guy was an OTV.<br />
Some great cult eh?<br />
RIP</p>
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		<title>By: Zippo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zippo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Queen. 
He died with two movies coming out and if there is no will his scientologist wife gets everything. Which she will of course surrender to the cult. 
Maybe it was an stranglefap accident, maybe another of (many) scientologist&#039;s suicides.
The timing is perfect for CoS to get all the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Queen.<br />
He died with two movies coming out and if there is no will his scientologist wife gets everything. Which she will of course surrender to the cult.<br />
Maybe it was an stranglefap accident, maybe another of (many) scientologist&#8217;s suicides.<br />
The timing is perfect for CoS to get all the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, thanks for your post Antonio. I hope that the authorities investigate the heck out of this, in case there was any foul play involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, thanks for your post Antonio. I hope that the authorities investigate the heck out of this, in case there was any foul play involved.</p>
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		<title>By: King</title>
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		<dc:creator>King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Bless David and his family in their time of sorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Queen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh... #21, FYI you are quoting two different people.

Let me see.. you named Muslims and Christians in your &quot;defense&quot; against my article. Typical response.

I reported what the news reported and the FACTS of Scientology affiliation are readily avlailable on the internet.

How&#039;s that Scientology working out for yah jaws?

I hope you are able to get out of the grasp of Scientology&#039;s claws. Peace out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230; #21, FYI you are quoting two different people.</p>
<p>Let me see.. you named Muslims and Christians in your &#8220;defense&#8221; against my article. Typical response.</p>
<p>I reported what the news reported and the FACTS of Scientology affiliation are readily avlailable on the internet.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that Scientology working out for yah jaws?</p>
<p>I hope you are able to get out of the grasp of Scientology&#8217;s claws. Peace out</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trolls be gone!  Anyone insinuating that Queen thought David Carradine deserved death because of his CoS affiliations clearly can&#039;t READ.  CoS has had a hand in many unexplained deaths, pointing this out does not mean she wishes harm against anyone.  

Scientology makes victims of everyone who joins its ranks.  Fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolls be gone!  Anyone insinuating that Queen thought David Carradine deserved death because of his CoS affiliations clearly can&#8217;t READ.  CoS has had a hand in many unexplained deaths, pointing this out does not mean she wishes harm against anyone.  </p>
<p>Scientology makes victims of everyone who joins its ranks.  Fact.</p>
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		<title>By: bob dobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love copypasta, moar sauce pleaz!
 http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/04/jason_beghe_on.php
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 22 2008 @ 4:36AM 
Merrill says: 

As a Scientologist for 34 years I can speak directly to the other side of this story. 

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1401119.php/OT_V_Jason_Beghes_full_interview_Scientology_scams_exposed_
MerrillApr 22nd, 2008 - 14:00:01

As a Scientologist for 34 years I can speak directly to the other side of this story.

 RIP, Mr. Carradine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love copypasta, moar sauce pleaz!<br />
 <a href="http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/04/jason_beghe_on.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/04/jason_beghe_on.php</a><br />
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 22 2008 @ 4:36AM<br />
Merrill says: </p>
<p>As a Scientologist for 34 years I can speak directly to the other side of this story. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1401119.php/OT_V_Jason_Beghes_full_interview_Scientology_scams_exposed_" rel="nofollow">http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1401119.php/OT_V_Jason_Beghes_full_interview_Scientology_scams_exposed_</a><br />
MerrillApr 22nd, 2008 &#8211; 14:00:01</p>
<p>As a Scientologist for 34 years I can speak directly to the other side of this story.</p>
<p> RIP, Mr. Carradine</p>
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		<title>By: Kilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP Grasshopper..</description>
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		<title>By: Jannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh bloody heck, this tragedy just keeps getting weirder by the day. DC was no angel and made plenty of human mistakes in his life, as his autobiography written in the 1990s (now up to about $160 at Amazon!) admits. But he seemed smart enough to not be fooled by the CO$ at least. I guess not. I had no idea that he was close to all that via his family. I would have prayed even harder for him if I had. :-(

Thanks for posting this info and keeping us informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh bloody heck, this tragedy just keeps getting weirder by the day. DC was no angel and made plenty of human mistakes in his life, as his autobiography written in the 1990s (now up to about $160 at Amazon!) admits. But he seemed smart enough to not be fooled by the CO$ at least. I guess not. I had no idea that he was close to all that via his family. I would have prayed even harder for him if I had. <img src='http://glosslip.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for posting this info and keeping us informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Pineda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Pineda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a blogger on the scene in Bangkok at the hotel where Carradine died and am blogging about this on http://magickpapers.com/blog

ICON OF AN AMERICAN FILM DYNASTY
BY ANTONIO PINEDA

The announcer for the BBC breaks the story on TV. David Carradine was found dead in the Swiss Hotel on Soi Nailert. The film star was found in the closet of his room bound by curtain rope around his neck, and the inference is that his genitals were bound as well. The news ran through the Bangkok film colony like a forest fire.

I consult investigative journalist David Walker. He is also a screenwriter and author of the cult classic book, Hello My Big Big Honey. Walker is at the hotel. He has already led a CBS crew to legendary film producer-director David Winters penthouse office. Winters is a dear friend of Carradine from their glory days in Hollywood. Walker wants to see the surveilance tapes. No chance Bagger Vance. Dr. Pornthip, a colorful Thai forensic scientist is on the scene at the hotel. Walker says Pornthip, who is famous for sporting many hued punk hair styles and is a bit of a celebrity,delares the case to be death by auto sexual strangulation.

I roll up to Winters penthouse office. He is devastated by the tragic loss of a dear friend. He has not slept. CBS and People Magazine have already come by to solicit intelligence. David is shocked by the tawdry inferrences. He has spoken to 3 of Carradines agents. The agents declare that Carradine was on the roll of a lifetime. Quentin Tarantino redefined the 72 year old actor in Kill Bill. Carradine recieved a Golden Globe nomination for his work with Tarantino. The actor of the classic cult TV series Kung Fu had starred in 13 motion pictures since Kill Bill. His salary was in the stratosphere.

The strange circumstances of the verdict by auto- sexual strangulation trouble Winters. It takes two to tango. Why indeed would a man of his talent take his own life alone. Bangkok is known as a city with love for sale. Film people come here to shoot and avail themselves of the pleasures to be found in the gilded city of sin. Kinky sex is no big deal. Could this be a coverup for a sex robbery murder. The Royal Thai Police have shut the door on this case all too quickly. The tourist industry has been severely damaged by the recession and political instability. The murder of a famous film star would be a final nail in the coffin of the tourism industry. Winters says that Carradine, son of John , iconic members of an American cinema dynasty were above the fray. David Carradine was according to Winters a consumate gentleman, a brilliant actor, and a man for all seasons.

I run into local film producer Tom Waller at a reception hosted by the Italian Embassy. Tom does not believe in the verdict of death by auto-sexual strangulation. He concludes that it was a sex robbery gone wrong, and that to cover the motives the body had been arranged to fit the profile of death by auto- sexual strangulation, a theory once confined to the genre of novels classified as psychological thrillers. The denizens of the film colony in Bangkok are incredulous at the grisly circumstances of the sad demise of this brilliant talent.

The reception is attended by beaucoup des artistes and cineastes. Film critic Nick Palevski and I schmooze at the bar. Between glasses of vino rosso and spumante Nick expresses his distaste for the tawdy belching of the media and press. He is the critic for Auteur, a web site devoted to film criticism. He can not believe the shabby and sensational manner in which this case is being exploited.

In no way is this story meant to impugn the reputation of the Royal Thai Police, their meritorious service is well known. Nor is it meant to slander the bereaved Carradine family. The American Embassy has issued a statement wishing the family the best in this tragic moment, embassy staff have no other conclusion re this case except the finding of the body. Aristotelian logic might conclude that something is rotten in Denmark. Western countries would conduct a far more sophisticated investigation.

The epilogue is delivered by my dear friend in Santa Monica Martin Zweiback. He is a writer- producer director with 50 years of credits in Hollywood. Martin scrpted the original Kung Fu series and is a close friend of David Carradine. Martin is a gentleman of class and distinction. He often graces the Bangkok film colony with his presence. It is fitting that a cineaste of his stature have the final word in this affair. I recieved this e mail from Martin, and with all due respect to this fine bloke it is represented here below as a final testament to this sordid affair.

Antonio, my friend,
Sorry I&#039;ve been neglectful about keeping in touch of late.
Thinking about Carradine this day, I recall when writing the Kung Fu show, how often his image inspired the words, and how much depth he brought to them. They sometimes had to pour him onto the set but he never read a line wrong. He was a gifted and underrated actor. I saw him at a screening of Kill Bill not too long ago. He seemed vibrant and clearly excited by the &quot;second chance&quot; Tarantino&#039;s film had given him. Suicide in the middle of shooting a movie at this point in his life just doesn&#039;t compute -- but it does remind us to count our Blessings, Gifts, and Challenges -- and be careful what we wish for.
With All Good Thoughts,
Martin

more to follow on http://magickpapers.com/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a blogger on the scene in Bangkok at the hotel where Carradine died and am blogging about this on <a href="http://magickpapers.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://magickpapers.com/blog</a></p>
<p>ICON OF AN AMERICAN FILM DYNASTY<br />
BY ANTONIO PINEDA</p>
<p>The announcer for the BBC breaks the story on TV. David Carradine was found dead in the Swiss Hotel on Soi Nailert. The film star was found in the closet of his room bound by curtain rope around his neck, and the inference is that his genitals were bound as well. The news ran through the Bangkok film colony like a forest fire.</p>
<p>I consult investigative journalist David Walker. He is also a screenwriter and author of the cult classic book, Hello My Big Big Honey. Walker is at the hotel. He has already led a CBS crew to legendary film producer-director David Winters penthouse office. Winters is a dear friend of Carradine from their glory days in Hollywood. Walker wants to see the surveilance tapes. No chance Bagger Vance. Dr. Pornthip, a colorful Thai forensic scientist is on the scene at the hotel. Walker says Pornthip, who is famous for sporting many hued punk hair styles and is a bit of a celebrity,delares the case to be death by auto sexual strangulation.</p>
<p>I roll up to Winters penthouse office. He is devastated by the tragic loss of a dear friend. He has not slept. CBS and People Magazine have already come by to solicit intelligence. David is shocked by the tawdry inferrences. He has spoken to 3 of Carradines agents. The agents declare that Carradine was on the roll of a lifetime. Quentin Tarantino redefined the 72 year old actor in Kill Bill. Carradine recieved a Golden Globe nomination for his work with Tarantino. The actor of the classic cult TV series Kung Fu had starred in 13 motion pictures since Kill Bill. His salary was in the stratosphere.</p>
<p>The strange circumstances of the verdict by auto- sexual strangulation trouble Winters. It takes two to tango. Why indeed would a man of his talent take his own life alone. Bangkok is known as a city with love for sale. Film people come here to shoot and avail themselves of the pleasures to be found in the gilded city of sin. Kinky sex is no big deal. Could this be a coverup for a sex robbery murder. The Royal Thai Police have shut the door on this case all too quickly. The tourist industry has been severely damaged by the recession and political instability. The murder of a famous film star would be a final nail in the coffin of the tourism industry. Winters says that Carradine, son of John , iconic members of an American cinema dynasty were above the fray. David Carradine was according to Winters a consumate gentleman, a brilliant actor, and a man for all seasons.</p>
<p>I run into local film producer Tom Waller at a reception hosted by the Italian Embassy. Tom does not believe in the verdict of death by auto-sexual strangulation. He concludes that it was a sex robbery gone wrong, and that to cover the motives the body had been arranged to fit the profile of death by auto- sexual strangulation, a theory once confined to the genre of novels classified as psychological thrillers. The denizens of the film colony in Bangkok are incredulous at the grisly circumstances of the sad demise of this brilliant talent.</p>
<p>The reception is attended by beaucoup des artistes and cineastes. Film critic Nick Palevski and I schmooze at the bar. Between glasses of vino rosso and spumante Nick expresses his distaste for the tawdy belching of the media and press. He is the critic for Auteur, a web site devoted to film criticism. He can not believe the shabby and sensational manner in which this case is being exploited.</p>
<p>In no way is this story meant to impugn the reputation of the Royal Thai Police, their meritorious service is well known. Nor is it meant to slander the bereaved Carradine family. The American Embassy has issued a statement wishing the family the best in this tragic moment, embassy staff have no other conclusion re this case except the finding of the body. Aristotelian logic might conclude that something is rotten in Denmark. Western countries would conduct a far more sophisticated investigation.</p>
<p>The epilogue is delivered by my dear friend in Santa Monica Martin Zweiback. He is a writer- producer director with 50 years of credits in Hollywood. Martin scrpted the original Kung Fu series and is a close friend of David Carradine. Martin is a gentleman of class and distinction. He often graces the Bangkok film colony with his presence. It is fitting that a cineaste of his stature have the final word in this affair. I recieved this e mail from Martin, and with all due respect to this fine bloke it is represented here below as a final testament to this sordid affair.</p>
<p>Antonio, my friend,<br />
Sorry I&#8217;ve been neglectful about keeping in touch of late.<br />
Thinking about Carradine this day, I recall when writing the Kung Fu show, how often his image inspired the words, and how much depth he brought to them. They sometimes had to pour him onto the set but he never read a line wrong. He was a gifted and underrated actor. I saw him at a screening of Kill Bill not too long ago. He seemed vibrant and clearly excited by the &#8220;second chance&#8221; Tarantino&#8217;s film had given him. Suicide in the middle of shooting a movie at this point in his life just doesn&#8217;t compute &#8212; but it does remind us to count our Blessings, Gifts, and Challenges &#8212; and be careful what we wish for.<br />
With All Good Thoughts,<br />
Martin</p>
<p>more to follow on <a href="http://magickpapers.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://magickpapers.com/blog</a></p>
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