This past Friday evening, ABC’s Nightline aired part two of their Inside Scientologyseries with anchor Martin Bashir. If you missed it, the videos are posted on ABC’s website. It is a MUST see.
 Part One is  here,  and Part Two is here.

Friday’s show was a continuation from Thursday night’s interview with ex-Scientology top executives Marty Rathbun, and Amy Scobee, as well as ex member Bruce Hines. They were all former members of Scientology’s Sea Organization.

Bashir also continued his interview with Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis who ended ripping off his microphone, and storming off the set. We will get to that juicy part later.

ABC Anchor Martin Bashir

Friday evening’s coverage focused on the celebrities in Scientology. Tom Cruise was the main focus.  Tommy Davis claimed that Scientology does not given special treatment to celebrities, but I beg to differ. Cruise considers cult leader David Miscavige one of his closest friends and Miscavige not only attended Cruise’s wedding, but he also tagged along on Tom and Katie’s honeymoon. Doesn’t everyone bring their “church” leader on their honeymoon with them?

Cruise is not only BFF’s with David Miscavige, but he was also a huge advocate for Scientology. I say “was” because Cruise has really simmered down since his couch jumping days. His leaked Scientology video, his insults against Brooke Shields for taking medication for her postpartum depression, and his famous “glib” interview with Matt Lauer has put a serious damper on his career and his popularity. 

Matt You Are So Glib!

If you ask just about anyone on the street these days of their opinion of Tom Cruise, most will say he is a kook.

Cruise is trying to re-boost his career, by not speaking publicly about Scientology and trying to show the world how “normal” his life is with his family. But are people buying it? I doubt it. Cruise is DEEP into Scientology. He co-founded the NY Rescue Workers and Firefighters Detoxification Program after 911. Again, this program is EXACTLY the same as Scientology’s Purification Rundown and their Narconon program.

Cruise also lobbied in Washington with a quest to have every school in the US teaching Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard’s “tech.” Applied Scholastics is the front name used in the schools, but it is without a doubt Scientology. Applied Scholastics has already infiltrated some of the schools in the US. I am not talking about Scientology schools like Delphi Academy and Will Smith’s New Village Academy, but rather regular public schools in our towns that are teaching children Scientology tech.

In Baton Rouge, Louisiana, they started teaching Scientology tech in Prescott Middle School in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. Applied Scholastics representatives assured them that the program was secular.  A couple of quotes from that story posted on the Scientology V. Education website:

The Baton Rouge school district agreed to pay $20, 000 a year to Applied Scholastics for a licensing fee and to hire a teacher from the nonprofit to help teach the course. Costs were offset by seed money that Travolta contributed and by donations from local businesses. Parents were enlisted to volunteer as tutors.

Dave Touretsky, a research professor at Carnegie Mellon University, that’s only because the academic experts don’t know the intricacies of Scientology.Study tech is “covert religious instruction” and therefore unconstitutional to teach in public schools, said Touretsky, who has studied Scientology and written extensively about Hubbard’s study skills curriculum.

Scientologists will use the program at Prescott to sell the program to other struggling communities, Touretsky said, and to promote the image of Scientology.

Rest assured, the teachers and the people in that town have NO idea what they are teaching these kids, nor understand how dangerous the tech can be for their children. Former Scientology member Monica Pignotti can tell you just exactly how dangerous the study tech is. Click here to read up on it yourself. I am not sure if Prescott Middle School has continued teaching this tech or not. I hope town officials and teachers have done their homework by now.

So a word of caution people, if your child’s school is approached with Applied Scholastics or any anti-drug pamphlets that contain the initials “CCHR” written anywhere on the pamphlet, please stay clear! The CCHR is another Scientology front group. Also stay away from the names Way To Happiness, or The Drug Free Marshals, just to name a few.

Scientology Can Use Some Body Language Courses!

These names are are ALL Scientology front groups. Sorry to sway away from  ABC’s interview, but any chance I have to make people aware that Scientology is trying to infiltrate our children’s schools, I feel compelled to make mention of it.

So back to the interview…

Former Scientology Sea Org member, Amy Scobee who was one of Scientology’s top execs and also one of the people who spoke out in the St. Petersburg Times articles, spoke with Bashir about the Purification Rundown.

Amy Scobee, Blonde On Bottom Right Hand Corner

She tells Bashir a horrifying story about when she was MADE to go on the Purification Rundown as part of a punishment within the Sea Org. Amy explains how daily she was ingesting 5,000 milligrams of niacin, exercising (usually a treadmill), and sitting in a sauna for five hours, for EIGHT MONTHS. She said she had“grey stuff ” coming out of her pores. I would imagine she was also ingesting oil, as this is another part of the Purification Rundown. As horrible as it was for Amy to be on this whacko science regimen, (which does not have any scientific data to back up its claims of actually detoxing the body at all) it was one of the things that woke Amy up and forced her decision to leave Scientology. And we are sure glad she is out. Bravo Amy!

Of course Scientology denies Amy’s story and says that the Purification Rundown is used for “religious reasons” by members. Hmmm.
Scientology is pretty crafty. They use different names for the Purification Rundown, like the NY Firefighters Detox Program, Narconon, and Criminon, and offer this program to the public and ask towns for funding using the town’s tax payer’s dollars. Exactly what they do with Applied Scholastics,  and The Drug Free Marshals etc…

They say that the program is secular and has NOTHING to do with Scientology. But yet when Scientology is pushed up against the wall, (as they were with Amy’s claims) they claim that the Purification Rundown is for “religious reasons.”

So how can they possibly claim that their front group programs are secular and have nothing to do with Scientology, when they are IDENTICAL to the same programs they are calling ”religious”?
Confusing? That is their intention.

Back to Rathbun…
Marty Rathbun continued his interview with Bashir and said that he himself has “audited” both Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Boy… I would love to know what is in their files! Of course everything contained within a Scientology member’s file is supposed to be confidential. That is…confidential until you cross Scientology. After the St. Petersburg Times articles came out with ex member’s stories, Scientology published personal information on Amy Scobee, Tom DeVocht, Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun in a 80 page issue of their Freedom Magazine.

Scientology even gave the “defectors” nicknames like the King Pin, The Adulteress, and so on. It was not only the MOST childish thing that I have ever read by an organization, it was rife with lies about the ex-members and Scientology’s spin. Proving once again that Scientology’s Fair Game policy is alive and well.

Although it was not brought up in the interview, Rathbun is known as an independent Scientologist. And there are also Freezoners. Freezoners are members who have left the organized “church,” but still want to practice Scientology. There are groups of Freezoners here and there world wide. Scientology now considers these people who have previously dedicated years of their lives and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on trying to climb up the Scientology’s Bridge their evil enemies. They are considered as SP’s, or suppressive persons.

Freezoners left the church as they felt that L. Ron Hubbard’s Tech was being “squirreled” by cult leader David Miscavige. To ”squirrel the tech” means to change the writings of L. Ron Hubbard in any way. Miscavige has changed the tech many times. He has changed it, repackaged it, and told the members that the old books were now incorrect, and that they had to buy the “newer” version. This was done to keep more money coming into Scientology. Sadly, members actually fell for it.

Changing any of L. Ron Hubbard’s tech is considered a big no-no in Scientology and many current members consider David Miscavige to be a suppressive person. Why they continue to stay in the “church” is a mystery. But slowly, that seems to be changing.

People who are Freezoners, also did not agree with the way the “church” was being run and could no longer stand all the abuses and illegal activities that were going on, so they decided to leave the “church” and set up business elsewhere, and yes it is in fact a business. People who want to practice Scientology outside the cult still have to pay for auditing and courses to whomever is offering them. What they charge is nowhere near the hundreds of thousands of dollars that organized Scientology charges. Which is where Rathbun comes in. He was one of Scientology’s top auditors before he left, and he continues to audit people today.

If today’s organized Scientology continues to crumble, Rathbun can end up with more “disciples” to audit. Perhaps he is hopeful for Travolta and Cruise to leave the cult and audit with him once again. Not likely though, especially not for Cruise. Cruise considers Rathbun an enemy of the cult and and a huge SP. Cruise does not appreciate what Rathbun is saying about David Miscavige and the abuses of the cult.

Tom Cruise’s lawyer sent a statement to ABC Nightline and stated that even though Cruise is aware of the things being said about David Miscavige, Cruise does not believe it.

BFF’s For Ever!

Really Tom? Miscavige is ruining your career in case you didn’t notice. How many people is it going to take for you to wake up and understand that David Miscavige is an abusive tyrant who only wanted you for PR purposes to promote the cult and oh yeah…take your money?

And as Bashir pointed out to Davis in the interview…these stories of abuse from ex-members were from randomized people. And of course Davis quipped back to Bashir with “Well that’s how it is made to look.” Sure it is Tommy.

Rathbun was in Scientology for 27 years, and his brain is totally immersed in the tech. He still believes that con man L. Ron Hubbard is the best thing since sliced bread and that his writings are still WORD.

Giddy Up L. Ron!

Rathbun never completely left Scientology, and he probably never will. But we are awful glad he came forward to speak out, as well as the others. Many more are likely to follow.

After 27 years, and being one of Miscavige’s top lieutenants, 
Rathbun is still programmed to live, eat and breathe Scientology. Rathbun also thinks David Miscavige should be made “to pay the piper” for all the people he has abused. Of course Rathbun himself admitted to being an abuser, but he never mentioned that he should pay the piper as well. Hmmm.

Freezoners who continue to practice Scientology, still mean they are being brainwashed, no matter how you cut it.  It’s the way the courses, the auditing and the drills were set up by Hubbard, at least there isn’t a Sea Org and David Miscavige is out of the picture. But hey, people can believe in what they want, as long as it doesn’t hurt and abuse others and as long as it doesn’t end up being another 
abusive cult off-shoot.

So getting back to Scientology spokesman Mr.Tommy Davis.
As I mentioned in the last article on this series, Tommy Davis’ body language was VERY telling. Again, I noticed he sat with tightly clenched hands, laughed nervously, and at one point was sitting with his arms and legs totally crossed. He looked like he was wrapped so tight, that you couldn’t pull a pin out if his butt with a tractor.
Bashir proceeds to ask Tommy about the e-meter and HIS own personal beliefs. Tommy was not very convincing when it came to the e-meter. The conversation went as follows:

Bashir: Has the e-meter ever been subjected to randomized clinical trials to assess it’s efficacy?

Davis: I have no idea. I don’t know why it would be. It works in Scientology and that’s what people use it. I don’t know why it would be subjected to random clinical trials.

Bashir: Because it’s a… mechanism for therapeutic care you just said…

Davis: In a religion.

Bashir: But has it ever been tested objectively is what I’m asking?

Davis: I mean it gets used every day by Scientology counselors.

Bashir: I’m not asking that. I’m asking…

Davis: To my knowledge, no. … And as far as evidence of the e-meter and its efficacy, the evidence of that is in those Scientologists who have used it to great benefit. And as far as the Church of Scientology is concerned, it’s the only evidence that matters, is the people and the results.

“In a religion?” Then why is the e-meter used for Scientology “Stress Tests” on the general public?

Typical Stress Test Set Up On Sidewalk

I wish Bashir asked Davis that question and I also wish there was an e-meter present at Bashir’s interview. Of course Tommy would never agree to be put “on the cans.”I also doubt that Scientology would ever agree to have an e-meter present at ANY interview.

It’s hard to believe that the e-meter has never been tested objectively or questioned. It obviously instills fear in so many of its members because of it being an actual lie detector. It also enslaves members. And although I am sure Scientologists sign all sorts of waivers, using an e-meter on cult members seems not only highly questionable, but illegal. Attention Government!

The e-meter is supposedly considered a ”religious artifact” by Scientology. FYI, they tell their members to buy TWO e-meters. (one for back up of course)  E-meters cost THOUSANDS of dollars. Boy, talk about a scam.

Keep in mind, as I mentioned before, these e-meters are present on all of the Scientology “Stress Test” tables that you may see set up outside one of their “orgs.” Sadly, you can see them at flea markets, street fairs, or just set up on a sidewalk in a town. They even set up outside Walmart! You won’t see the word Scientology anywhere on their tables though. I thought I read by law, that each e-meter used by the public is supposed to carry a label on the back of it in which it states that it is used for “entertainment purposes only”. That’s funny, I thought Davis claimed it was used for “religious” purposes? Confused? Again…. Scientology’s intention.

Scientology claims that they can cure what ails you with auditing, and this has been recorded by some who have taken the Stress Test. Deception personified. Anything to get “fresh meat” into their doors.

After people take a stress test, they try to get the person to buy a Dianetics book and maybe visit their local Scientology “org” to take a “personality test.” They will also ask for your personal information at that point. After the test, they will look over your results and tell you that you are not a very happy person, and you have problems, no matter how happy you are and that they can help you. They will also ask you to watch a film, and then perhaps some time you may want to take some of their ”communication courses” that will help you, and then eventuall get you on to auditing. That’s where the brainwashing begins and that’s when they will never leave you alone once they have your personal information. Tell me how this is this still legal again?

So back to the juicy part of the ABC’s interview…
Why did Bashir say to Tommy Davis to get him so hot under the collar? So hot, that he got up and walked out.  He asked him about his beliefs. Most people when they are asked about their beliefs or about their religion, will gladly tell you all about it. Especially someone who is supposed to be a representative for a church.

But let me first explain.. If you are a Scientologist, you are not allowed to discuss your “religious beliefs” or where you are on Scientology’s Bridge To Total Freedom with non Scientologists. You can discuss your phony “wins”. But that’s about it. Scientologists are not allowed to discuss any problems they are having, doubts or say anything that can be considered negative against Scientology. If a member did discuss these things, and someone were to report it, than that person would be considered PTS. (potential trouble source). This can mean MORE hours of auditing or a “sect check” if you are in the Sea Org, which is interrogation. It can also lead to family disconnection of not corrected.

As stated before, Scientology’s e-meter works like a lie detector as confirmed by ex member Bruce Hines when he was talking with Bashir. Of course many ex members who have left that didn’t continue with Scientology as a Freezoner will also tell you that the e-meter is nothing more than a lie detector. If you lie while you are “on the cans” it will certainly show. It has nothing to do with “engrams” or removing body thetans from your body as Scientologists are convinced to believe. It’s a damn lie detector. 

Pretty snakey of Hubbard. Scientology brainwashes members and puts them on an e-meter to find out all their intimate secrets and then puts all that information into a file and then blackmails ex members by leaking their personal information if they decide to leave and speak out against the cult. What a lovely “church” indeed.

FYI, Hubbard wasn’t the one who invented the e-meter it was actually Volney Mathison.  And another FYI….most of Hubbard’s  babblings are gleaned from various other religions and smooshed all together. Buddhism being one. Hubbard stole everything from everywhere.

So getting back to Tommy and Bashir.
Bashir wanted to know if Tommy believed in the story of XENU. (pronounced zeenoo) For those of you who do not know who Xenu is, the story of Xenu can be found anywhere on the internet. The story on the internet is actually the EXACT story written by founder L. Ron Hubbard. It is also level three or OTIII, on Scientology’s Bridge to Total Freedom. Which we at Glosslip call the Bridge to Nowhere and Financial Ruin.

There are two ways to climb up the Bridge, but we are not going to get into all that. But one way in order to start climbing up the eight levels Scientology’s Bridge, a member must be deemed “clear” before he can be an “OT” and start up the Bridge. This costs hundreds of thousands of dollars and many hours of auditing, drills and courses in order to get up to that level. This can take many years.

Scientology also tells it’s members that if they were to read OTIII without going the proper path, (called “free wheeling” in scio-speak) that they can catch a pneumonia and possibly die. I kid you not. They also tell their members that some members have become very ill while doing OTIII. And before all you Scientologists out there try to defend OTIII, and say that most religions have crazy stories attached to them, which I totally agree….. Two things.

Number one…. Scientology is not a religion, it is a business, and number two… I think all the stories attached to religions are ALL eye rollers.

When Bashir asked Tommy if he believed in the story of Xenu and volcanoes and such, Tommy said:

“Martin, I am not going to discuss, the disgusting perversions of Scientology beliefs that can be found now commonly on the internet, and be put in the position of talking about things for ah, ah, ah, that, ah, talking about things that are so, fundamentally offensive, to Scientologists to discuss.”

Disgusting perversions of Scientology?
Why not see for yourself? OTIII is on Wikipedia and many other places on the internet for free.

To help you understand the story of Xenu… A YouTuber posted a video which tells the story of Xenu via South Park. (which Scientology had squashed and taken off the air of course) Click here to watch it.

Now although the show South Park is of course a comedy, the OTIII they recited was not a joke nor a spoof. It was told exactly the way it was written by Hubbard. This particular YouTube video, brilliantly included the actual 1967 lecture by L. Ron Hubbard himself who is reciting the story of Xenu and OTIII. It’s Hubbard’s own voice. This video was an excellent way to prove that the story of Xenu and OTIII is in fact told correctly. Any ex member who has done OTIII will also tell you that what is on the internet is EXACTLY the same as the OTIII level they went through and paid for. ASK THEM YOURSELF.

Now why do you think Scientology doesn’t want it’s members to know or hear about Xenu? Remember their claims of getting ill?
Now what if a member happened to hear OTIII and realized that they didn’t get ill from hearing it or reading it and found out what Scientology told them was a lie? How would Scientology look then? Check it out for yourself. Look it up and read it, or watch the video I suggested. See if you get ill! *snicker*

OTIII is such an outlandish piece of sci fi idiocy, that Scientology also fears that if their members were to hear it, they would stop paying to go up the Bridge. What member would pay ALL that money to go up the Bridge if they knew OTIII was about space aliens that were dumped in a volcano? Not too many.

Now you are probably thinking, then why doesn’t Miscavige just change OTIII or tone the story down a bit? Well if he did that, he would have to change the entire Bridge.  Reason being…. in OTIII, you learn that your body is infested with body thetans which came out of the volcanos. As you are go farther up the Bridge to the upper levels, members find out that they have even MORE body thetans attached to them that they have to get rid of via auditing on the e-meter. (of course this is more money for Scientology) So getting rid of OTIII, would not be an option. Besides the fact that OTIII is what Scientology is all about with the exception of their communication courses.

So after Bashir tries to calm Davis down (and I am paraphrasing a bit) by saying he is just trying to understand his beliefs and that he thinks he has been acting appropriately during the interview and didn’t try to mock Davis in any way…. he then asks Davis again about Xenu.
Davis replied angrily:

“I’m gonna stop you. If you’re gonna ask me that question again, and you’re going to repeat things about volcanoes and this kind of thing, and so on and so forth, I will stand up and walk out Martin. Because, because what you’re doing by doing that, is you are intentionally asking me things which you know I find offensive. And you’re insisting me on asking of them, so I’m asking you one more time…”

Too bad Bashir didn’t ask Davis why there is a volcano pictured on the front cover of all Scientology Dianetics books and why it is used as Dianetic’s logo. These books with the volcanoes can be seen in every single Scientology display window across the USA and worldwide.

Of course Bashir (my new hero) asks Davis again about Xenu, and that is when Davis stands up, rips off his mike, throws it down and walks out of the interview. Hmmm, seems like Davis could have used some of Scientology’s communication courses.  *snicker*
After all, Hubbard stated that “communication is the universal solvent”. Uh… yeah ok Lafayette.

Keep in mind that Davis was most likely drilled extensively by Miscavige before this interview, as with every other interview he does. But nobody really knows what Miscavige is telling Davis when it comes to the story of Xenu. We don’t know if he is in on the scam, or where Davis is in his Scientology teachings. Davis is trying to convince people that it is offensive to speak about his religious beliefs, when it actuality, it is only a ploy to continue to keep Scientology’s scam a secret.

But one thing for sure, no matter how much Davis is drilled before these interviews, he still sports very telling negative body language, he is way too defensive about Scientology beliefs, and he always ends up putting his foot in his mouth.

Bashir was certainly “at cause” over Davis. Davis walking out of that interview, not only made Scientology look very bad, but I was kind of surprised about the REASON why he walked out. WHY?

Davis was interviewed by John Roberts on CNN a while back, and Roberts also asked Davis about the story of Xenu. Davis said that it didn’t sound familiar to him and he was laughing and smirking as if to imply the whole thing was ridiculous. 

But THEN not very long ago….. Davis did another interview with Nathan Bacca for KESQ. Bacca asks Davis MANY questions and also asked Davis about the story of Xenu, and Davis said he WAS familiar with the material, and again said he was offended by Bacca asking him about religious beliefs. *scratches head*
This YouTube video, shows a good cross section of Tommy Davis and his ever changing story of OTIII which was reported by an Australian news channel.

So what gives Tommy? Are you NOT keeping track of what you are saying during these interviews? Or are you hoping that people didn’t see your prior interviews? 

No worries Tommy…
because we are keeping track of  everything you say for you. It’s all over the internet. on forums and all over YouTube. 

Between Tommy Davis’s footbullets, Scientology’s court cases, and a group called Anonymous who protest the cult MONTHLY and globally, Scientology has seen better days. And Tommy…. every time you stick you foot in your mouth, people everywhere are watching, recording, talking and writing about it. You have to be getting pretty tired of the taste of foot.

Bashir ended the interview with a recap and at the very end he asked viewers if they thought that Scientology should keep their tax exemption status and to go to the ABC website and leave their opinions. At that point I felt like I was at a football game, as I stood straight up from the couch and cheered ” YES!!”
It was the perfect “bazingo” at the end of the series.

Glosslip would like to thank ABC and Martin Bashir once again for their wonderful coverage on Scientology. We hope this is only the beginning of shedding more light on this abusive cult, and hope it wakes up our Government and law officials enough to finally step in and say enough is enough.

To all members who are still in Scientology. If you are having doubts, please know that you are not alone. If you have come to the realization that something has gone terribly wrong with your “church”… again, you are not alone. Many members are leaving and orgs are struggling to stay open. Don’t be part of the problem, be part of the solution.

If you need help leaving Scientology, or you just need someone to talk to…
call 1-866-XSEAORG. This is a toll free call.

You Can Do It! Be Free!

Speaking of leaving Scientology…

Glosslip would like to congratulate Paul Haggis who has just left Scientology! Paul was a member for over THIRTY FIVE YEARS. He is a screen writer, a director, has won Oscars, and is a civil and human rights activist. Paul wrote a letter to Tommy Davis. In that letter, he complained about San Diego Org’s public support of Proposition 8, about Davis denying the existence of family disconnection when he was interviewed, and how he was also against Scientology using ex member’s private information to attack critics. To read his actual letter he sent to Tommy Davis, you can find a copy of it on WWP. Click here.
Welcome out Paul!

And as always…
Many thanks to Anonymous for their continued tenacity in fighting this cult. Their quest is to stop the abuses of Scientology and totally dismantle the Sea Org and to have fun along the way. 
I totally support their fight.
I would also like to thank Anonymous for their Why We Protest website, their Why We Protest Wiki, (which is a WEALTH of information) and for a whole lot of lulz!
Yummy cake to you all!